I tend to agree with you Kevin. I came come out of a Technical support background. I was told a long time ago that any email exchange should be quote in full so a full email trail could be followed down to last detail. Having a trail give some context for email even you are making just a snip. Just an observation, One of the great Internet founders, Dr Postel said we should be conservative ( trying to cause as little offense as possible ) in what we send out but liberal ( taking as little offense as possible ) in what we receive. Certainly when we communicate with many different cultures we need be that way with personal communication as well as network Protocols. Regards pab -----Original Message----- From: Kevin McLauchlan [mailto:kmclauchlan@chrysalis-its.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:18 PM To: 'suse-linux-e@suse.com' Subject: Re: [SLE] Please stop TOFU On Wednesday 05 June 2002 14:19, Christopher Mahmood wrote: [...]
I.e., instead of you replying to post of mine by carefully trimming the amount of the text you quote and then add your follow-up below it, you add your answer and then quote my entire email below.
It's amazingly rude and ugly, even worse than Cc'ing a poster when replying to the list.
Hi. I apologize for my recent contribution to the "Fullquote Under" problem. That was just carelessness on my part, and suggests a lack of respect that I didn't intend. Sorry. HOWEVER... regarding the other points: 1) I am in a dozen lists of various kinds, and many people prefer to have reply text *above* the edited, quoted text, so that they can read the answer and not need to scroll down unless they need a reminder about the matter being addressed. 2) Equally, on many lists, many people ask explicitly to be CC:'d because they are on digest, or because their filters automatically file list messages and they want a copy to remain in their inbox until they can notice that someone has responded to them directly (as opposed to generic replies to the list). Some days, I get too busy to keep looking in all my list folders for new posts, but if a copy lands in my inbox, I know that somebody wants my attention, or that I should politely thank somebody who has written me an answer. Again, I agree wholeheartedly with concerns about fulltext quoting, and re-iterate my apology for recent, careless transgressions on my part. The other stuff, however, seems to be more a matter of taste... or of having lived in newsgroups with old newsreaders, before emigrating to mailing lists ("it's better because that's the way we've always done it"). If there are convincing technical reasons for: a) always replying below (edited) quoted text and b) never CC:ing a list-member, then I'm open to be instructed. I hate being the only doofus who doesn't know why/how he's being rude or offensive. "A gentleman never gives offence unintentionally." By the way, in case I haven't made it clear recently, I really appreciate the effort, knowledge and enthusiasm of people who take the time to answer queries on this list, especially those who go a little further and explain *why* something works the way it does (or point to a URL). Regards, /kevin -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com