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Re: [SLE] Report: Less Linux in servers...
- From: Curtis Rey <crrey@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:50:05 -0500
- Message-id: <01061316500502.00671@cb952536-a>
As a medical professional any survey that doesn't show the legitimacy of the
study by: A) publishing the "methods" used in a proven scientific manner:
B) Doesn't have a control group: C) Don't show methods to disqualify any
bias or self selection: and D) Doesn't discuss the failings that may have
been present and the implication that this may have on any "conclusions" that
might be arrived at are "conjecture" plain and simple. What statistical
analysis and mthods were used? What was the criteria for the population
selection? How many confounders were present? The article doesn't even get
close to meeting the proven methods and formats for "any" study or survey
that would be worth the time and effort to even consider it as a viable
source of information that one would use to make decisions or consider as
"fact."
As far as I'm concerned it's just someones opinion. And given that this
"someone" is openly and widely known to be in a contractual partnership with
one of the companies involved in the study - it has disqualified itself
outright as a biased and unreliable source.
IMHO. Curtis
On Tuesday 12 June 2001 12:36 pm, StarTux wrote:
> First reply...
>
> Remember this survey was taken from only 724 or so "professionals",
> wonder how many were the MSFT sponsered ones? Add in the fact that the
> number is so small that it does not represent any real value at all...
>
> This is like an election, the first 700 show that leader a has 92%, whilst
> leader B has only 8%. With so many shadows of doubt over just how many
> were just taking the survey just to add the MSFT and because if you double
> the size of the survey you could easily get a very different result.
>
> Netcraft is better than any Gartner research anyway...Although thats not
> perfect.
>
> Matt
>
>
> --
> "The only thing complex about Linux are the users themselves."
>
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Fred A. Miller wrote:
> > Report: Less Linux in servers...
> >
> > "A major disagreement is brewing about exactly what share of the server
> > market Linux actually holds, and Microsoft is again an active player in
> > the debate.
> >
> > A recently released Gartner Dataquest report, sponsored by several
> > companies including Microsoft, found that just 8.6 percent of server
> > shipments in the U.S. during the third quarter of 2000 were
> > Linux-based.
> >
> > The report, authored by Gartner Dataquest principle analyst Jeff
> > Hewitt, also found that 93 percent of those server systems shipped were
> > Red Hat Linux, with the remaining 7 percent consisting of "other Linux
> > flavors."
> >
> > Another interesting finding was that when so-called "white box," or
> > non-branded, server purchases were excluded and only branded server
> > purchases considered, Linux's share of the market fell to just 6
> > percent in the third quarter of 2000."
> >
> > http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2772060,00.html
> >
> > --
> > --
> > ----/ / _ Fred A. Miller
> > ---/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Systems Administrator
> > --/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / Cornell Univ. Press Services
> > -/____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ fm@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
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study by: A) publishing the "methods" used in a proven scientific manner:
B) Doesn't have a control group: C) Don't show methods to disqualify any
bias or self selection: and D) Doesn't discuss the failings that may have
been present and the implication that this may have on any "conclusions" that
might be arrived at are "conjecture" plain and simple. What statistical
analysis and mthods were used? What was the criteria for the population
selection? How many confounders were present? The article doesn't even get
close to meeting the proven methods and formats for "any" study or survey
that would be worth the time and effort to even consider it as a viable
source of information that one would use to make decisions or consider as
"fact."
As far as I'm concerned it's just someones opinion. And given that this
"someone" is openly and widely known to be in a contractual partnership with
one of the companies involved in the study - it has disqualified itself
outright as a biased and unreliable source.
IMHO. Curtis
On Tuesday 12 June 2001 12:36 pm, StarTux wrote:
> First reply...
>
> Remember this survey was taken from only 724 or so "professionals",
> wonder how many were the MSFT sponsered ones? Add in the fact that the
> number is so small that it does not represent any real value at all...
>
> This is like an election, the first 700 show that leader a has 92%, whilst
> leader B has only 8%. With so many shadows of doubt over just how many
> were just taking the survey just to add the MSFT and because if you double
> the size of the survey you could easily get a very different result.
>
> Netcraft is better than any Gartner research anyway...Although thats not
> perfect.
>
> Matt
>
>
> --
> "The only thing complex about Linux are the users themselves."
>
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Fred A. Miller wrote:
> > Report: Less Linux in servers...
> >
> > "A major disagreement is brewing about exactly what share of the server
> > market Linux actually holds, and Microsoft is again an active player in
> > the debate.
> >
> > A recently released Gartner Dataquest report, sponsored by several
> > companies including Microsoft, found that just 8.6 percent of server
> > shipments in the U.S. during the third quarter of 2000 were
> > Linux-based.
> >
> > The report, authored by Gartner Dataquest principle analyst Jeff
> > Hewitt, also found that 93 percent of those server systems shipped were
> > Red Hat Linux, with the remaining 7 percent consisting of "other Linux
> > flavors."
> >
> > Another interesting finding was that when so-called "white box," or
> > non-branded, server purchases were excluded and only branded server
> > purchases considered, Linux's share of the market fell to just 6
> > percent in the third quarter of 2000."
> >
> > http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2772060,00.html
> >
> > --
> > --
> > ----/ / _ Fred A. Miller
> > ---/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Systems Administrator
> > --/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / Cornell Univ. Press Services
> > -/____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ fm@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > --
> > To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxx
> > For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@xxxxxxxx
> > Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the
> > archives at http://lists.suse.com
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