Well, as I prolly indicated in my last post..I don't know as much about ATI's as I should. Your TNT2 card should work really well w/ XFree 4.02 .. mine does. I didn't do anything special accept for run 3Ddiag which told me to run the right switch2* script in /usr/X11R6/bin. I played Soldier of Fortune in all it's glory lastnight for 4 hours .. it worked fine. Heavy Gear 2 hasn't looked better then it does with 7.1+4.0.2. I will give you as much help as I can...but when it just works and I haven't see the problems..it becomes very hard ;) * Ken Hughes (kenh@ast-inc.com) [010301 10:31]: => =>What I don't understand is how 3D support can be there in XFree3, but not in XFree4? =>This pertains not to the Radeon, but my RivaTNT2. I get 3D out the kazoo in XFree 3, =>but zippo in XFree 4.0.2. -- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org ----- If two men agree on everything, you can be sure that only one of them is doing the thinking.