On 13/05/11 00:33, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
[...] As far as I'm concerned, the discussion is over. I'm gonna stop reading this thread, make the modifications made by the few sensible commenters and ignore the armchair philosophers. I bet they're even to lazy to change anything on the wiki anyway.
Sorry to be so blunt.
Next time I have something like this I'll just talk to a few sensible people and put it live. [...] PS before you think otherwise, my rant is NOT targeted at you, Jim. I'll have a look at the link you posted tomorrow. And I'm sure the ppl who my criticism is targeting have no problem feeling it doesn't apply to them.
All I can say is that there seems to be (as often the case) a very strong inverse relationship between the number of (irrelevant) mails on -project someone sends and the amount of work someone does on openSUSE.
May I remember everyone here of the fact that opinions and ideas are cheap and work is what counts? If you're not even willing to put in a bit of time to properly read what others say and make concrete suggestions if someone asks for input (see the conference program thread for example) you'd better spend your time on, I dunno, a political mailinglist, where opinions are all that counts and nobody cares about reality.
Again sorry for the rant.
I've just come back and have to read an email like this. That's awful! And an apology later on doesn't make this go away. I thought it was one of the few threads on this list where people actually tried to stay on topic. Just because quite a few do not agree with your opinion doesn't make them armchair philosophers or invalidates the whole thread. Since you are citing the guiding principles frequently: "We value respect for other persons and their contributions, for other opinions and beliefs. We listen to arguments and address problems in a constructive and open way. We believe that a diverse community based on mutual respect is the base for a creative and productive environment enabling the project to be truly successful." Clearly, this is just empty rhetoric for you... I can only shake my head about such an openSUSE community manager. Oh, by the way, sorry for the rant. Th. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org