There's some pretty extreme situations being raised here, which I think could derail the intention somewhat. Issues like actual physical assault and rape are serious and require law enforcement. These are not to be taken lightly. My understanding of this document is that it is to articulate that we, as a community, value and respect people of all stripes - genders, orientations, races, abilities, shapes and sizes - and will not tolerate vilification, abuse or harassment in any form. We appreciate that cultural differences may cause misunderstanding so are trying to clarify these, and will attempt to smooth misunderstandings as they arise, but expect people to not play dumb, and make an effort. I think it's important that we state this in writing. It's not going to be a perfect document and it's a brief position statement, not a 500-page manual of How Not To Be A Loser. Regrettably, the people who need most to read and understand it will do neither. cheers Helen -- IRC: helen_au helen.south@opensuse.org helensouth.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org