Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (292 mails)

[Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Monday 09 May 2011 18:27:45 jdd wrote:
> Le 09/05/2011 17:31, Jos Poortvliet a écrit :
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'd like to have a code of conduct or anti-harassment policy at our
> > conference, see for reasons my latest blog at
> > http://blog.jospoortvliet.com
> >
> > I made a draft: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Code_of_Conduct
> >
> > Please, any input is more than welcome! But read before replying, there
> > is a FAQ already so don't ask what is answered there ;-)
>
> it's pretty difficult to define harassement, for example french
> inability to use neutral gender makes discussion of should some words
> been set male or female.
>
> On the same subject, what cloth must we wear? in some places or
> countries go from nude to completely covered, with any of them
> forgiven when other are mandatories, from nude camps to publicly
> wearing niquab, and people being fired becaude coming with bermuda and
> no tie.
>
> not to say we don't have to think about this, but setting rules is
> very difficult, specially if you want rules that can be used.

Didn't I ask to read the FAQ? ;-)

The rules are intentionally imprecise. This is NOT a mathematical endeavour no 
matter how much we would like it to be. Harassment and offence is mostly 
defined by those harassed and offended. Yes, that goes against the "but you 
can define how the world is" philosphy a good hacker should have and opens the 
floor for endless discussion. Believe me (see my blog) I very much feel the 
pain. But the social reality simply is different.

Which is why I put in the FAQ mentioning freedom of speech, how we'll judge, 
why you can really be yourself and why it is needed. If you have specific 
questions or comments on any of those, please let me know.

General (and obvious) comments as feedback on how difficult it is to define 
harassment etc are slightly less useful. Sorry to slam down on you, my friend, 
but without being rude I have to tell you how it is. If only to show it is 
possible  ;-)

Cheers,
Jos

> jdd