Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (930 mails)

["Carlos E. R." <carlos.e.r@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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On 2010-06-26 05:10, Jim Henderson wrote:
> Hi, Stephan - 

> > Your, the forum admins`, answer was mostly that said subtopics are
> > already covered by their parent ones (e.g. applications for servers and
> > security). OTOH you happily run some "64-bit" subforum which makes no
> > sense IMHO since this nowadays boils down to having to install the
> > necessary 32-bit compat libs for some binary blobs (e.g. skype).
>
> Sure, let's discuss the options.  If we can come up with a better 
> structure than what we currently have, I believe that would be seen 
> universally as a good thing.  We may not agree on the final breakdown, 
> but if we can make it easier for potential repliers to find topics of 
> interest and make it easier for users to self-classify their issues by 
> picking the right forum, that should make everyone's job easier.


To me, list user, the number of forums (I try to read them sometimes, via nntp 
only) and their names
is disconcerting. I can't relate them to the mail list names, I don't know 
which to read.

For example, there is "opensuse.org.help.prerelease-beta". Is that equivalent 
to opensuse-factory?
If so, why not have it named "...factory"?

Or "opensuse.org.help.install-boot-login". I see threads like "Software update 
apparently replaced
Firefox 3.6.4 with 3.5.9", "bundle-lang-gnome 2233 update fails", "Graphics 
Card Driver for GMA HD
Please". I fail to see the relation to the group name... :-? Boot or login 
problems? I don't really
know what that group is for from reading the title.


To  me, it is disconcerting.

Then, there is, for example, opensuse.org.news.security-announcements. I'm 
reading via news
interface, often off-line. But all posts I try, instead of containing the 
security information,
contains the link to the info somewhere else... thus, useless to me. The 
equivalent mail list does
contain all the info "inside".

opensuse.org.news.tech-news has a similar problem.

Then, a post or a thread I understand can be moved from a group to another. 
This is very
disconcerting via nntp.


Perhaps all this seems silly to a person used to forums, but then, maybe, they 
help keep some of us
listers away from the forums.

How about a guide for mail list users attempting to participate in the forums? 
Maybe it exists already?




[bugzilla]

> Perhaps what we could do as an alternative is encourage users to file 
> their own bugs, but have a formal dispute resolution process in the event 
> the reporter and the developer come to an impasse or otherwise aren't 
> able to reconcile the way forward.  Someone could mediate the dispute so 
> - if at all possible - a mutually acceptable solution could be found.

Absolutely :-)


- -- 
Cheers / Saludos,

                Carlos E. R.
                (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar))
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