On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 23:33 -0300, Gabriel Stein wrote:
Sorry Abhradip,
I'm quite simple. I don't know you, but I'm really courious about your contribution to openSUSE Community.
I'm talking serious, I'm not judging, but I'm really worried because we have a lot of work to do with openSUSE Project and you still wasting your time discussing your opinions.
What do you think about we participate more, promote more, develop more... and really, if you want to call XuniL/UNG ou GNU/Linux I don't care.
Common, we have a lot of work to do, please enjoy us! You have a very nice speak, I'm wondering if you could call more and more people to the Project, its really important to openSUSE!
All the best.
PS: There's just ONE thing which makes me angry, feel a massive angry: people discussing and losing time of producing. PS: I won't reply, its my 2 cents.
2009/6/17 Abhradip mukherjee
: On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:56 AM, Chuck Payne
wrote: Sorry for posting from blackberry I know it top post and. I'm sorry. I support opensource and I support freesoftware. I have issue with the last postn becuase I have a tought to get ppl to say linux correctly.
Correctly it is GNU/Linux.
So to say I am not a good supporter because I don't say gnu linux really rubs me wrong.
It is not just about uttering the words. It is about showing your support to the Free Software Movement by acknowledging the work by GNU project.
I love and promt linux becuase it free
I hope you are talking about "free as in freedom" and not "free as in gratis". If you are talking about gratis then you have understood it wrong and should go through http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html
and I promt so much opensource there is a reason my nickname is terror.
If you are a supporter of "free software", then why do you promote "open source"? "open source" is not necessarily free software! See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html
Please it does't what you called as long as you love it.
What kind of love makes you give no credit to people who deserve it? And also, it is not about only you but also about people you talk to. Like you said, you are teaching people of "open source". How can this make people aware of the importance of freedom in technology. Check out : http://passion4freedom.org/concept
- ADM --
I don't want to rip into ADM based on what, if anything, he has contributed to the openSUSE Project as a whole. We shouldn't preclude any discussion by using contribution as the sole litmus test for whether anyone can speak. When we do that, we significantly hamper our efforts to bring in new blood, fresh perspectives, and strong contributions. That is just wrong and please, let's not go down that path. ADM, I think you have eloquently and passionately stated your case and I recognize many valid points you have made. I also admire you for standing up for what you believe in. This world needs more people who stand up behind the words they speak in all avenues of life. I do agree with Gabriel that we cannot let ourselves get dragged down by such details. Perfecting words when there's much to be done overall in the project does slow us down, take us off focus, and detracts from the work that hundreds of contributors and members of openSUSE have put into the project. It's been a spirited debate, ADM, and for that I thank you. However, I do find fault in one aspect. You continuously use the word Freedom and yet you continually and strongly put down others who disagree with you. It seems to be an anathema to the very words you have preached when opposing views aren't given the chance to exercise the very freedom you espouse. That, in and of itself, significantly undermined your entire premise and cut into your credibility. And it has clouded the message. I personally cannot endorse speaking the words but not practicing the action. I welcome debate from others who believe GNU/Linux should be used. But, in your case, I simply have lost faith in the messenger. -- Bryen Yunashko openSUSE Board Member openSUSE-GNOME Team Member GNOME-A11y Team Member www.bryen.com (Personal Blog) www.planet-a11y.net (Feed aggregator of the Accessibility Community) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org