Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-marketing (165 mails)

[Piotrek Juzwiak <piotrek.juzwiak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Matthias Fehring wrote:
> On Monday 16 February 2009 18:08:09 Piotrek Juzwiak wrote:
>   
> > Ricardo Varas Santana wrote:
> >     
> > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
> > >
> > > <jbrockmeier@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >       
> > > > On 02/14/2009 09:35 AM, Piotrek Juzwiak wrote:
> > > >         
> > > > > In my case i find english language to be at
> > > > > least "primitive", i should explain what i mean because i don't want to
> > > > > offend anyone. In my language almost every word has it's own meaning,
> > > > > what i mean by that is that in english one word can have several
> > > > > meanings for example free where in my language  we have at least two
> > > > > words for that
> > > > >           
> > > > I'm not sure I'd call that primitive, but it's certainly more
> > > > complicated for non-native (and sometimes native) speakers.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Zonker
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> > > > Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
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> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I find english an OK and not so complicated language. For technical
> > > matters it is pretty good, even better than spanish because most of
> > > the times you can use less words in english for the same idea in
> > > spanish.
> > >
> > > "Free" in spanish has two meanings as well (libre and gratis), and
> > > they both are way different. I think it's always to elaborate when
> > > words might lead to confusion.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >       
> > As a matter of fact most of technical stuff got it's names in English
> > first :) Maybe i used too harsh words but beauty of a language is it's
> > ability to express yourself in as many words as possible right?? Having
> > one word for many things makes it really poor (just my opinion, you
> > don't have to agree with that), i do like using English because there is
> > always place to improvise but still it's going into wrong direction in
> > my opinion. The worst thing i see is usage of english words in our
> > native languages, this sounds at least silly. Being in germany last time
> > i see increased usage of english words instead of "native" german words
> > which i find "brutal" but hey, media are enforcing this on us that way.
> > Looks to me, that in 50 years we will all talk a mixture of english and
> > our native language (if by this time everyone won't talk english only) .
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Bender
> >     
>
> Piotrek, you can't imagine how good I am feeling with you. In Germany it is 
> really a bad fashion to use english words for things for that german words 
> already exist. Sometimes it reminds me to the 17. and 18. century, when 
> french 
> was very vogue at the aristocracy to differ themself from the normal people.
>
> Understand me right, I don't have anything against english. It is more the 
> guilt of the germans themself to be not brave enough to use own words. 
> English 
> words gets adopt implicit and without thinking about german words for the 
> same. Also many german writers don't seem to have the courage to create own 
> new words for new things, or to use exisiting words for describing new things.
>
> I envy the english speaking world for there courage to use exisiting words 
> for 
> new things or to create new ones. The germans than only adopt them, what is 
> really poor.
>
> But that is not the guilt of english. It is in our own hands to staminate our 
> own languages.
>
> In the german wiki I try for myself to use as less english words as possible. 
>  
> Especially because of all the non geeks out there. :)
>
> Best greetings
>   Buschmann
>
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Good to know there is someone that feels the same as i am :)
I guess this is the process of globalisation  for which english was
chosen as the leading language.
In this process we may lose ourselves as our native language is just as
part of ourselves as our "native" culture tailored to our thinking and
to our history like english jokes are understood only by english :)
Every country has it's history and it's language is a part of our
history right?
Well i leave all that to all of you who are subscribed to this mailing
list (i know this discussion may not fit too well in marketing mailing
list so if you don't like it then delete and ignore it ;-) )

Best Regards

Piotrek Juzwiak

 
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