p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; In data domenica 19 aprile 2015 20:48:57, Raymond Wooninck ha scritto:> As indicated some time ago, the initial decision was not to release the KDE
Application releases as of version 15.04 for any openSUSE target except Tumbleweed. KDE Applications 15.04 would made available for Tumbleweed users together with the switch of the default KDE desktop to Plasma 5.
And this was a GOOD idea.
The team discussed the topic again and I can now announce that we will start building the Frameworks based applications also for openSUSE 13.2.
What does this mean concretely ?
This means concretely that if the desktop messes up and do not start again, all the people that I help with opensuse and that are delighted with a stabel conservative desktop will call and say: you see it does not start anymore. And ...nobody will be there to help them.
Newer packages that will be build against KDE Frameworks, will not have a different package name. e.g. Kate will remain Kate. If the KDE4 based version of a package will need to remain, then this package will have a 4 as suffix. In most cases if both packages are provided, then they will conflict with eachother. e.g. installing kate4 will automatically remove kate and vice versa.
The updates will be provided through two repositories
1) Official KDE Application releases will be made available through a seperate repository KDE:Applications, which is build for openSUSE 13.2 and openSUSE Factory/Tumbleweed. It is not necessary for Tumbleweed users to activate this repository as updates will come with regular Tumbleweed snapshots.
And this is a GOOD idea.
2) Other KDE/Qt based packages (not part of KDE Applications) will be made available through the existing KDE:Extra repository.
And this is IMO a masochistic idea. If it ain't broken don't fix it. People rely on these very common repos for productive machines. They do security updates when available. Want to live "KDE4.0 is not KDE4.0" one more time, really? Why would you ever want to do this instead of leaving it aside in a separate repo.
The environment where Frameworks based applications are running inside a KDE4 desktop is untested. Also upstream is only testing how KDE4 based applications are behaving inside a Plasma 5 desktop. Although we are not expecting issues, one can never be sure.
If it becomes clear that this is causing an unstable desktop for openSUSE 13.2 users, then we would revert the changes for openSUSE 13.2 and remain there with pure KDE4 applications.
But then it will be too late for the many that just use the machine. I really do not understand why you choose this. This is against all past politics for the stable versions. So my opinion is: think about it. Please don't mix. The stable version must stay stable. If people are risk liking they have Tubleweed. If not, why we have Tubleweed then? If people want to try 13.2 with separate repos with untested software on production machines, go ahead. But stable must be stable. Thank you. --- Alle Postfächer an einem Ort. Jetzt wechseln und E-Mail-Adresse mitnehmen! http://email.freenet.de/basic/Informationen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org