On Saturday, January 07, 2012 11:51:55 AM Sven Burmeister wrote:
Again, if it is broken for you, why do you not just remove it?
Because you can't as apper keeps package management blocked almost all the time. It is either checking for updates, or just hanging around. It took few iterations of: ps x |grep apper kill <apperPID> zypper rm apper if no change go back and find new pid, to finally succeed and lock package management for me. I made it just before I started to think about: kill <apperPID> && zypper rm apper Just wondering, who made it almost invincible? Respawn process after being explicitly removed, like it is something that system will not run without?! There is no context menu (right click) item to tell system to stop apper, like other it is present with programs. There is no option to stop it in settings, unless user figures out that update interval "never" will do that to some extent. It was the only option in 11.4 that was able to prevent checks for updates every 10 minutes. Problem is that above works only on automatic updates, not on currently running process. Also, it will not prevent manual start, like when user is browsing Configure Desktop (Personal Settings, systemsettings), and try to see what software module is doing; apper will cheerfully start to abuse given chance. When I start zypper/YSM (YaST Software Management) and it finds package management locked, it will propose to ask application that is locking system to quit, but after several iterations system is still locked by the same application. I use package management often and having to fight for right to use it with automatic system like Apper doesn't work for me. What is broken, Apper or libzypp backend, I don't know, and after few failed attempts to provide updater suitable for new users I don't care much. I give it a chance, but on a first misbehavior I just blow annoyance from the system, if it is possible, which in the most recent incarnation was somewhat annoying experience. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org