Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-kde (368 mails)

["Rajko M." <rmatov101@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Saturday, January 07, 2012 11:51:55 AM Sven Burmeister wrote:

> Again, if it is broken for you, why do you not just remove it? 

Because you can't as apper keeps package management blocked almost all the 
time. It is either checking for updates, or just hanging around. It took few 
iterations of:
  ps x |grep apper
  kill <apperPID>
  zypper rm apper
if no change go back and find new pid, to finally succeed and lock package 
management for me. I made it just before I started to think about:
  kill <apperPID> && zypper rm apper

Just wondering, who made it almost invincible? 
Respawn process after being explicitly removed, like it is something that 
system will not run without?!

There is no context menu (right click) item to tell system to stop apper, like 
other it is present with programs. 

There is no option to stop it in settings, unless user figures out that update 
interval "never" will do that to some extent. It was the only option in 11.4 
that was able to prevent checks for updates every 10 minutes. 

Problem is that above works only on automatic updates, not on currently 
running process. 

Also, it will not prevent manual start, like when user is browsing Configure 
Desktop (Personal Settings, systemsettings), and try to see what software 
module is doing; apper will cheerfully start to abuse given chance. 

When I start zypper/YSM (YaST Software Management) and it finds package 
management locked, it will propose to ask application that is locking system 
to quit, but after several iterations system is still locked by the same 
application. 

I use package management often and having to fight for right to use it with 
automatic system like Apper doesn't work for me. 

What is broken, Apper or libzypp backend, I don't know, and after few failed 
attempts to provide updater suitable for new users I don't care much. I give 
it a chance, but on a first misbehavior I just blow annoyance from the system, 
if it is possible, which in the most recent incarnation was somewhat annoying 
experience. 


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Regards,
Rajko
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