Am Samstag, den 07.01.2012, 01:02 -0800 schrieb Roger Luedecke:
Frankly, 12.1 KDE has been so painful in many regards that i have rolled back my machines to 11.4 Gnome. I'm hoping that the KDE team will look on the many problems, and rather than push new technologies will instead press to fix the issues plaguing 12.1. Though 11.4 was rough out of the gates, it could be easily worked around and was almost entirely fixed and stabilized less than two months after its release. Frankly, with the minor decrease in quality and consistency of 11.4 and then the more serious issue around 12.1 I fear for the fate of openSUSE. I hope we can engage a meaningful dialog to address these issues and aim for a better product.
Hi, I've been held back from this discussion because such discussions easily get out of control. But also because I can not at the package building, still in development contribute something. My humble abilities are limited to working in the German Wiki. However, I must now say something about KDE. I'm after the KDE 4.7 in my opinion a rather step back in terms of stability and user friendliness, is a satisfied user become GNOME 3. That starts at the plasma crashes for no apparent reason again and again, kmail (kontact) behaves as if it was still beta software, the start of the KDE desktop takes longer (more than 1 min) as needed for loggin opensuse. I must honestly say that alone with these problems for me was due to move to gnome 3 .... the test system → to general system! But now that things can be anything you revidere with kde 4.8. ;-) What annoys me even more is the state or the structure of the kde repositories. Aside from that, the next it: K:D:S, K:D:F, K:U:SC and K:R:XX plus Extra, Playground, Apps etc, then these are also equipped yet strange. Exampel: According to my understanding so far is in K:D:F the test for K:R:47 ... right? But was in K:R:47 is the next release (KDE 4.7.4) already available rather than in K:D:F should theoretically where the test actually occur. Only if the version 4.7.4 is stable enough for this should K:R:47 are pushed. This process was already with K:R:46 to watch. Well I found out recently that it already K:R:48 is the same goes further since then? I hope not! If you do, you could then K: D: F save, right? This should think about the team. How is one to explain the upcoming KDE users spending only in KDE Factory must be tested in order to get stability, but then if the latest KDE version is already offered in the upstream before it was available and tested in KDE Factory. The whole thing is, apart from the order of the tests are not nachvollzihebar is also bad for KDE itself, because it indeed be pushed into an upstream repo packages that have not been adequately tested. There must not be surprised that many users are disappointed by KDE. I hope that despite my poor English is clearly what I meant? If not, can indeed look at everyone in the Build Service KDE repos and packet construction time itself. I would like to reiterate that I do not want to complain here, because I already put on the where I criticize, I can not contribute anything except my opinion, it is related to a long-opensuse / kde users still describe my impression too. I have deep respect of each active project with the kde does, and hope that my opinion is not misunderstood. The "SuSE" including KDE be with you, wherever you are .... ;-) -- Grüße aus' m Schwabenland ↓ → Lisufa, der Linuxsusefan ↓ ################################## ********************************** ....::: openSUSE Member :::..... ************************************************************* Die 'SuS(i)E' sei mit euch, wo immer ihr auch seid .... *************************************************************