Carl Fletcher wrote:
On 13/09/11 11:58, Stefan Vater wrote:
Ismail Donmez wrote:
Hi Sven;
> this morning (about 6:00 GMT) I updated from KDE:Release:47. From > then on, I could not invoke kate (from KDE4; KDE3's kate was > working). Please use KDE:Distro:Factory, its stable and serving KDE 4.7.1 now. AFAIR the purpose of KRx was serve users who do not want to act as testing users. There are several reasons for this. Among them that KDF will become unstable at some point and users will be forced to change
Am Dienstag, 13. September 2011, 10:28:16 schrieb Ismail Donmez: their repos again which they do not have to do when using KRx.
Users of KDF have to follow the news/wiki in order to know what's in KDF and when it changes which most of them do not want to do and do not have to do when using KRx because the name states the content – unlike KDF.
So advertising KDF instead of KRx will not result in more testers but just more frustration and those that explicitly want to test do so and are more willing to stay up-to-date. I can't agree here because KDE:Distro:Factory is always supposed to be stable and consistent. If its not, its a bug. But I agree with your
On 09/13/2011 11:59 AM, Sven Burmeister wrote: point about KR47 and javier is working on partially linking it to KDE:Distro:Factory so people can test latest stable software.
Regards.
Hi,
on http://en.opensuse.org/KDE_repositories I can read under "KDF":
"These repositories feature the KDE packages under development for the upcoming openSUSE release..."
So, as a normal user, I would suppose that it is NOT stable since it is under development.
For KR46/KR47 the same page states that these repositories are supposed for users who want to "... Get KDE SC 4.6.x from a relatively safe repository". Right now, this seems to be absolutly not the case!
Personally, I do not understand that the repository was published with half being 4.7.0 and half being 4.7.1. Would it be possible to switch back to 4.7.0 until the issues are sorted out?
Anyway, thanks for your work!
Regards, Stefan
Sven seems to be spot on.
The main problem is users are in too much of a hurry. No, I do not think in this case the problem is that users are "too much of a hurry". Consider a user who thought to be on the save side by switching from KR46 to KR47 after the anouncement of 4.7.1. Now, over a week after the announcement he would be in much trouble... Also, I would always thing that a minor version number update does not make much trouble.
R47 was and still is not ready to allow an update to 4.7.1 So why was it switched/published? 4.7.0 in it was in pretty good shape and working well!
I'm still waiting and advising such in the forum too.
I am also waiting, but only because I looked at the version numbers and did not like it that certain base packages were still at 4.7.0 level. But that should not be the rule, normally. But maybe we are on the same side :-) Hopefully, things will sort out in the coming days. It would be nice if there would be an "official" announcement on this list when KR47 is ready! Regards, Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org