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[opensuse-kde] KDE4 usability issues
- From: "Alexey Eremenko" <al4321@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:32:52 +0300
- Message-id: <7fac565a0808070432i21e73d55sd5c834b6f2adbb5d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Hi All !
(esp. Dirk & others) - whom I spoke to yesterday about KDE3/KDE4.
Now, I'm running latest openSUSE 11.0 (64-bit) and latest KDE 4.1.
What problems are still left in KDE4.x compared to KDE3.x ?
1. Using the taskbar - area near start button (kicker in KDE3 terms),
there are icons to quick-start applications.
I cannot add anything here, not by dragging from Start Menu (like
Windows XP), and cannot right-click to add new
application from start menu (like KDE3). This is very serious
usability trouble.
Only options available: (right-clicking on Konqueror 4 icon near start menu)
"add widgets"
"add panel"
must also have:
"add application" - either by manually typing command, or by selecting
from Start Menu.
1.a. Speaking of applets/widgets: "quicklaunch" for KDE4 needs to be
integrated as another widget into KDE, instead of being third-party
add-on.
2. Task-bar:
It has single level. In KDE3 or Windows XP I can have multi-level
"thick" taskbar, not so in KDE4.
In KDE4 taskbar can be "thick", but it will still be one-level.
This is not configurable via "Panel Settings".
3. "Show Desktop" / "Minimize all windows": (aka "show dashboard" in KDE4 terms)
- again - in KDE3 and Windows XP the "show desktop" can be used to
minimize all windows,
while I still see and can use the taskbar for windows reorganization,
while in KDE4 clicking on show desktop I can only see desktop and
start new application from desktop, but I cannot access taskbar and/or
start menu.
I use this very frequently, when I want to start new task on my
desktop, without fully ending previous task.
4. (subjective-opinion) Theming - Windows decorations - both "Ozone"
and "Oxygen" are ugly compared to KDE3/SUSE windows decorations.
BTW: Very good windows decorations were in the far past - SUSE Linux 9.1 (KDE3).
Maybe we can replicate those, as on option (or default) into KDE4/SUSE 11.1 ?
5. Screensavers are lacking (besides "Black screen")
6. All tray icons have no transparent background.
I mean - even native tray icons from KDE3 and KDE4.
--
-Alexey Eromenko "Technologov"
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(esp. Dirk & others) - whom I spoke to yesterday about KDE3/KDE4.
Now, I'm running latest openSUSE 11.0 (64-bit) and latest KDE 4.1.
What problems are still left in KDE4.x compared to KDE3.x ?
1. Using the taskbar - area near start button (kicker in KDE3 terms),
there are icons to quick-start applications.
I cannot add anything here, not by dragging from Start Menu (like
Windows XP), and cannot right-click to add new
application from start menu (like KDE3). This is very serious
usability trouble.
Only options available: (right-clicking on Konqueror 4 icon near start menu)
"add widgets"
"add panel"
must also have:
"add application" - either by manually typing command, or by selecting
from Start Menu.
1.a. Speaking of applets/widgets: "quicklaunch" for KDE4 needs to be
integrated as another widget into KDE, instead of being third-party
add-on.
2. Task-bar:
It has single level. In KDE3 or Windows XP I can have multi-level
"thick" taskbar, not so in KDE4.
In KDE4 taskbar can be "thick", but it will still be one-level.
This is not configurable via "Panel Settings".
3. "Show Desktop" / "Minimize all windows": (aka "show dashboard" in KDE4 terms)
- again - in KDE3 and Windows XP the "show desktop" can be used to
minimize all windows,
while I still see and can use the taskbar for windows reorganization,
while in KDE4 clicking on show desktop I can only see desktop and
start new application from desktop, but I cannot access taskbar and/or
start menu.
I use this very frequently, when I want to start new task on my
desktop, without fully ending previous task.
4. (subjective-opinion) Theming - Windows decorations - both "Ozone"
and "Oxygen" are ugly compared to KDE3/SUSE windows decorations.
BTW: Very good windows decorations were in the far past - SUSE Linux 9.1 (KDE3).
Maybe we can replicate those, as on option (or default) into KDE4/SUSE 11.1 ?
5. Screensavers are lacking (besides "Black screen")
6. All tray icons have no transparent background.
I mean - even native tray icons from KDE3 and KDE4.
--
-Alexey Eromenko "Technologov"
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