Hi All ! (esp. Dirk & others) - whom I spoke to yesterday about KDE3/KDE4. Now, I'm running latest openSUSE 11.0 (64-bit) and latest KDE 4.1. What problems are still left in KDE4.x compared to KDE3.x ? 1. Using the taskbar - area near start button (kicker in KDE3 terms), there are icons to quick-start applications. I cannot add anything here, not by dragging from Start Menu (like Windows XP), and cannot right-click to add new application from start menu (like KDE3). This is very serious usability trouble. Only options available: (right-clicking on Konqueror 4 icon near start menu) "add widgets" "add panel" must also have: "add application" - either by manually typing command, or by selecting from Start Menu. 1.a. Speaking of applets/widgets: "quicklaunch" for KDE4 needs to be integrated as another widget into KDE, instead of being third-party add-on. 2. Task-bar: It has single level. In KDE3 or Windows XP I can have multi-level "thick" taskbar, not so in KDE4. In KDE4 taskbar can be "thick", but it will still be one-level. This is not configurable via "Panel Settings". 3. "Show Desktop" / "Minimize all windows": (aka "show dashboard" in KDE4 terms) - again - in KDE3 and Windows XP the "show desktop" can be used to minimize all windows, while I still see and can use the taskbar for windows reorganization, while in KDE4 clicking on show desktop I can only see desktop and start new application from desktop, but I cannot access taskbar and/or start menu. I use this very frequently, when I want to start new task on my desktop, without fully ending previous task. 4. (subjective-opinion) Theming - Windows decorations - both "Ozone" and "Oxygen" are ugly compared to KDE3/SUSE windows decorations. BTW: Very good windows decorations were in the far past - SUSE Linux 9.1 (KDE3). Maybe we can replicate those, as on option (or default) into KDE4/SUSE 11.1 ? 5. Screensavers are lacking (besides "Black screen") 6. All tray icons have no transparent background. I mean - even native tray icons from KDE3 and KDE4. -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org