On Wednesday 19 April 2017, Wolfgang Bauer wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 19. April 2017, 18:24:22 schrieb Ruediger Meier:
Regarding "enterprise ready", I don't think this means they would fix *all* bugs immediatly.
Of course, and I don't blame them for that.
But that's exactly what we (i.e. "KDE") were being critizised for here.
But I guess this bug whould have been already fixed if you could reproduce it on RHEL or SLE.
I'm sure you can. Just have a look at my reproduction steps in the openSUSE bug report, and the upstream GNOME/GTK bug report is still open too. (it got reported in 2004 and the last comment is from a user in 2005 that this is still a problem)
The thing is that the more packages a distro provides the more problems of this kind may occur ... just two different programs not playing well together. The enterprise distros just "fix" such problems by only providing one of both programs.
This particular bug applies to *all* themes that set a certain flag.
Ok, they could argue that this is not supported, but then they should not crash on it either.
Moreover since most Gnome developers probably don't use KDE it's somehow understandable they either can't reproduce it or that just nobody is motivated to fix it. Maybe the KDE developers should send a patch since this bug looks important mostly for KDE users.
Now this is getting a bit ridiculous IMHO.
On one hand it is being said that we ("KDE") are not able to handle our own problems, and now we should also track down, investigate, and fix GTK's problems as well? Just because we try to integrate GTK applications into a KDE desktop too?
I'd just like to note here again that this particular problem is not related to KDE at all, it happens with *all* themes that set this particular option. (of course, the themes provided by GTK upstream don't do that...)
Hm, maybe I have not understood the bug reports correctly. I have read it like it's a bug in gtk3 but only triggered if kde (or at least a 3rd party custom theme) is involved too. Is that correct? If yes, then it's probably not reproducible on plain SLE. It's more like a porting issue, not affecting Gnome's major targets. Of course it should be fixed by gtk3 people. But in the real world and especially in the enterprise world developeres focus on a smaller subset of all possible targets and scenarios. BTW I'm not a Gnome fanboy. Actually I hate Gnome and would never use it by myself. But I would have loved if KDE development style is a bit more like Gnome (except the part that it requires systemd). Probably I would still use KDE then. Though I'm still using KDE-3.5 mostly (beside trying to get familar with fluxbox or xfce on FreeBSD to get rid of all this systemd/freedesktop crap). cu, Rudi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org