Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (955 mails)

[Ilya Chernykh <anixxsus@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Tuesday 25 October 2011 22:28:10 Sven Burmeister wrote:

> > Why there should be exactly plasmoid? Plasma does not use Qt4 style
> > settings, and uses its own style, thus any plasma-based panel would look
> > alien in Qt4-based environment. That said this idea is crippled by design.
>
> Ok, let's put it in a more general phrase since you seem to like nitpicking. 
> How can they hinder you to port kicker to KDE4/Qt4 and offer it to those who 
> want to use it? 

Kicker has been already ported to Qt4 by KDE4 devs and was included in 
KDE4 alpha release (that alpha was actually more usable than 4.0).
It was then dropped.

Possibly someone can resume work on it but he should be warned that Qt3support 
which
supposedly uses KDE4's kicker will not be included in Qt5 so the work is most 
likely
will be obsolete anyway. 

Although the same fate will await many other KDE4 applications, because most of 
them still
use Qt3support libraries.

This makes me disbelieve that transition to Qt5 will be smooth: only Qt4-native 
applications 
such as Plasma will be easily ported to Qt5 while the majority of other 
applications 
(Konqueror, Kwin among them) who still use Qt3support, will possibly be dropped 
or 
rewritten from scratch.

> How can they hinder you to create a Qt style for plasma? 

Imitation of style of another toolkit is was not perfect ever in any software. 
While external look at first glance may be imitated, the glitches will surface 
sooner or later.

Anyway it would be quite unreasonable to make any artwork for a project that 
throws other's
work so easily as KDE4 does.

> In another thread you argue that most people use LCDs thus the defaults 
> should 
> LCDs. Well, most people use plasma within KDE4 and not some niche Qt4 env or 
> whatever you think about using. So their ideas stick to the majority rather 
> than some niche users.

This is a double standard: to stick to the majority in desktop issues where
yet another desktop cannot harm anybody and still stick to the minority in
LCD issue where this sticking actually makes harm to the majority of LCD owners.
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