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Re: [opensuse-factory] status distribution week 5
- From: Eric Springer <erikina@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:52:07 +1000
- Message-id: <ce9c609e0901280352s2b458505n71565369d02e0efb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Stephan Kulow <coolo@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Let's just leave it broken until then. Cool =/
Put yourself in the shoes of someone (likely already an openSUSE user)
who wants to test factory for the first time.
Procedure:
1. Goes to opensuse.org
2. Goes to "Get Software" (Really simple, nicely positioned, clear)
3. Gets taken to a "Download openSUSE 11.1" page.
The user is now likely to be unable to find a way to change versions
from 11.1 to factory (the menu option is pretty hidden and unintuitive
)
4. Finds and clicks "Latest Development Version"
5. Gets taken to a "Download openSUSE 11.1-RC1"
A savvy user will identify RC1 as being a release candidate which is
in fact older than the current release. If they are undetered they
will go likely keep going:
6. Clicks to install "Installation DVD".
ERROR: link not found. nice.
7. Tries for "live cd"
Bzzzt. Error. Not found
If extremely determined the user will likely start searching the wiki
/ google and end up on the page:
http://en.opensuse.org/Development_Version
Which is:
Cluttered
Full of broken links
Not clear on what approach to take
Offers little on how to update into factory (just the name of a few
urls) and no commands needed
I always thought this mess was caused by lack of manpower/resources.
But we now are able to automatically build images -- there's just
really no excuses to why we don't leverage this. And if it's pushing
too much data -- do it on less frequent basis. Even done every week,
that's very acceptable.
If there are some technical issues in the way (are there?) let's work
on them, and stop acting like we need to wait month between hand made
images.
I know this, you know this -- but most people don't. And anyway, the
live cd (and installation DVDs if we can get them) is really a much
nicer solution, we now just need to start using them.
Kind Regards,
Eric
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Once we have significant enough changes in factory, we do an alpha
release. At this point, we'll update /developer.
Let's just leave it broken until then. Cool =/
Put yourself in the shoes of someone (likely already an openSUSE user)
who wants to test factory for the first time.
Procedure:
1. Goes to opensuse.org
2. Goes to "Get Software" (Really simple, nicely positioned, clear)
3. Gets taken to a "Download openSUSE 11.1" page.
The user is now likely to be unable to find a way to change versions
from 11.1 to factory (the menu option is pretty hidden and unintuitive
)
4. Finds and clicks "Latest Development Version"
5. Gets taken to a "Download openSUSE 11.1-RC1"
A savvy user will identify RC1 as being a release candidate which is
in fact older than the current release. If they are undetered they
will go likely keep going:
6. Clicks to install "Installation DVD".
ERROR: link not found. nice.
7. Tries for "live cd"
Bzzzt. Error. Not found
If extremely determined the user will likely start searching the wiki
/ google and end up on the page:
http://en.opensuse.org/Development_Version
Which is:
Cluttered
Full of broken links
Not clear on what approach to take
Offers little on how to update into factory (just the name of a few
urls) and no commands needed
I always thought this mess was caused by lack of manpower/resources.
But we now are able to automatically build images -- there's just
really no excuses to why we don't leverage this. And if it's pushing
too much data -- do it on less frequent basis. Even done every week,
that's very acceptable.
If there are some technical issues in the way (are there?) let's work
on them, and stop acting like we need to wait month between hand made
images.
You can install factory
from NET.iso any day though.
I know this, you know this -- but most people don't. And anyway, the
live cd (and installation DVDs if we can get them) is really a much
nicer solution, we now just need to start using them.
Kind Regards,
Eric
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