Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (904 mails)

[Volker Kuhlmann <list0570@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Fri 25 Apr 2008 10:38:44 NZST +1200, Lukas Ocilka wrote:

Your summary is extremely good.

> 1.) KDE3 vs KDE4, which one to offer?
> ~    - This was the original issue of this thread, do you remember ;)?
> ~    - Solved by offering both, can we agree on that?

Yes.

> 2.) Selecting the "default" Desktop
> ~    - Even if we are always talking about newbie users, sometimes also
> ~      geeks could change their minds of we provide them with enough
> ~      information on the current status of desktops

True.

> ~    - It should be clear what is which Desktop good for

You mean what a desktop is? Would someone new to Linux know that?
If you mean which desktop is good for what, that's not so easy and
subjective. I always thought they're all good for the same thing
(application work space), but differ in personal work flows and methods.

> ~    - Has anyone done any survey about these desktops and which users
> ~      tend to use them?
> ~    - Texts or images?
> ~    - I've already tried small screenshots with [Show Screenshots...]
> ~      button for 10.3 and Image browser opening after pressing the
> ~      button.
> ~      http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Installation/Desktop_Selection_Add-On

I'm myself undecided about the usefulness of screenshots, but they do
have some value. Your approach looks good (desktop, main applications).

> 3.) Selecting other desktops during installation
> ~    - Is should be clearly said that users can select more than one
> ~      desktop if they want to (and how, where)
> ~    - Selecting additional desktop(s) should be as easy as possible
> ~    - Yes, common user will probably not install more than one desktop
> ~      so we don't need to support that option in the basic desktop
> ~      selection dialog.
>
> 4.) Preselecting default desktop
> ~    - No, we can't preselect any desktop. KDE users would scream if it
> ~      was GNOME and vice versa. Additionally KDE3 vs KDE4 (See 1.)
> ~    - We could provide [I'm feeling lucky] or [I'm not sure]
> ~      functionality :) ;) First button would just select one, the second
> ~      one would show users, for instance, two (three) different
> ~      screenshots and let them select the one they like more (the best).
> ~      Users would be shown, let's say, five such choices and then an
> ~      average proposal would be counted.

Agreed. The "feeling lucky" approach isn't so bad, it provokes a grin,
and I think it's good to include a little bit of humour. It's perhaps
too much work at this point.

> We really have to move on.

Ok, I'll shut up now. Thanks for your work on this.

Volker

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