Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (904 mails)

[Lukas Ocilka <lukas.ocilka@xxxxxxx>]

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Volker Kuhlmann napsal(a):
| On Fri 25 Apr 2008 01:45:02 NZST +1200, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote:
|
|> I, for one, find it inconvenient to dive into software selection if
|> all I want to do is add GNOME & KDE, or KDE 3.5 and KDE 4.0. If we're
|> already presenting the desktop options for the user, I think it's less
|> than friendly to say "you can only choose one" and make them add the
|> other(s) via another screen.
|
| A multiple-selection also conveys the information that installing more
| than one desktop is supposed to work. Since Linux is truely multi-user,
| different users might have different ideas about which desktop they
| prefer when they log in.
|
| How about a note saying that additional desktops can be installed via
| the software selection? (Sorry if such a note is there, going back right
| now to look isn't so easy.)

This discussion seems to be never-ending story...

It might help to define what exactly do we want to achieve/solve here.
So, let's try to split problems into parts, please, as we can never
solve everything at once:

1.) KDE3 vs KDE4, which one to offer?
~    - This was the original issue of this thread, do you remember ;)?
~    - Solved by offering both, can we agree on that?

2.) Selecting the "default" Desktop
~    - Even if we are always talking about newbie users, sometimes also
~      geeks could change their minds of we provide them with enough
~      information on the current status of desktops
~    - It should be clear what is which Desktop good for
~    - Has anyone done any survey about these desktops and which users
~      tend to use them?
~    - Texts or images?
~    - I've already tried small screenshots with [Show Screenshots...]
~      button for 10.3 and Image browser opening after pressing the
~      button.
~      http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Installation/Desktop_Selection_Add-On

3.) Selecting other desktops during installation
~    - Is should be clearly said that users can select more than one
~      desktop if they want to (and how, where)
~    - Selecting additional desktop(s) should be as easy as possible
~    - Yes, common user will probably not install more than one desktop
~      so we don't need to support that option in the basic desktop
~      selection dialog.

4.) Preselecting default desktop
~    - No, we can't preselect any desktop. KDE users would scream if it
~      was GNOME and vice versa. Additionally KDE3 vs KDE4 (See 1.)
~    - We could provide [I'm feeling lucky] or [I'm not sure]
~      functionality :) ;) First button would just select one, the second
~      one would show users, for instance, two (three) different
~      screenshots and let them select the one they like more (the best).
~      Users would be shown, let's say, five such choices and then an
~      average proposal would be counted.

Could we agree on, at least, some of those points mentioned above,
please? We really have to move on.

Thanks & Bye
Lukas
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