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Re: [opensuse-factory] Desktop Selection
- From: "Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier" <jzb@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:24:50 -0400
- Message-id: <81d32afc0804240924u4c9e7aeas92e310ded3e339cd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Sid Boyce <sboyce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I don't know how true that really is, though -- my girlfriend's 9 year
old installed openSUSE on an old laptop of mine the other day with no
assistance aside from picking a username and password (he could have
done that as well, but she insisted on setting up the admin password,
for good reasons...). And that was from the 10.3 DVD -- and we've made
some serious installer improvements just since then.
Of course, we will have single-desktop installable live CDs that have
only one choice. Should we be directing users towards those rather
than the DVD? That's probably a discussion for a different list.
True, but we can pick a way that is most intuitive to most users. My
belief is that when you offer a user a set of choices that are not
incompatible, they should be able to select more than one choice at
that stage. I think it's a bit counterintuitive and slightly
frustrating when doing the install if you are only allowed to choose
one at that time.
Of course, I tend to run through the installation routine much more
often than I think most of our audience will -- so maybe I have
stronger feelings about it than the average user would because, even
if it is frustrating, it's only going to be frustrating *once*. :-)
Best,
Zonker
--
Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
openSUSE Community Manager
jzb@xxxxxxxxxx
http://zonker.opensuse.org/
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
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There will always be "The problem" for the "new user", the new user who
doesn't know or hasn't got herself familiar with what a GNOME or a KDE is. I
don't see how we fix that, other than eliminating choice, something that the
many reviewers recommend constantly - new users are supposed to be pretty
stupid, easily confused, horrified at the amount of disk space and memory
called for and frightened away from Linux in general and openSUSE in
particular.
I don't know how true that really is, though -- my girlfriend's 9 year
old installed openSUSE on an old laptop of mine the other day with no
assistance aside from picking a username and password (he could have
done that as well, but she insisted on setting up the admin password,
for good reasons...). And that was from the 10.3 DVD -- and we've made
some serious installer improvements just since then.
Of course, we will have single-desktop installable live CDs that have
only one choice. Should we be directing users towards those rather
than the DVD? That's probably a discussion for a different list.
I can't see a "BEST" way and doubt there is one that will meet everyone's
idea of what best is.
True, but we can pick a way that is most intuitive to most users. My
belief is that when you offer a user a set of choices that are not
incompatible, they should be able to select more than one choice at
that stage. I think it's a bit counterintuitive and slightly
frustrating when doing the install if you are only allowed to choose
one at that time.
Of course, I tend to run through the installation routine much more
often than I think most of our audience will -- so maybe I have
stronger feelings about it than the average user would because, even
if it is frustrating, it's only going to be frustrating *once*. :-)
Best,
Zonker
--
Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
openSUSE Community Manager
jzb@xxxxxxxxxx
http://zonker.opensuse.org/
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
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