Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (904 mails)

[Eberhard Moenkeberg <emoenke@xxxxxxx>]

Hi,

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Lukas Ocilka wrote:
> Eberhard Moenkeberg napsal(a):
> | On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Lukas Ocilka wrote:
> | > Nikolay Derkach napsal(a):
> | > | ? ???, 22/04/2008 ? 23:05 +0200, Lukas Ocilka ?????:

> | > | > What we need is to:
> | > | > ~  * Have nice and simple dialog understandable by
> less-experienced users
> | > | > ~    as well as all the openSUSE geeks.
> | > | > ~  * Provide helpful hints for less-experienced users to ease their
> | > | > ~    decision-making.
> | > | > ~  * Stay politically correct by not pre-selecting any option.
> | > | > ~  * Make it possible to select also another options (Xfce, Text
> Mode,
> | > | > ~    Minimal Installation).
> | > | > ~  ... ?
> | > |
> | > | What about placing all the selections in a circle? At least I see this
> | > | option as the only one which could match the third criteria.
> | >
> | > Without any irony [:) ;)] this sounds like a plan!
> |
> | No. It is just the next "political" trick on the attempt to kick off
> gnome
> | from top or to change the sequence of the two KDEs.
>
> Not exactly, I thought about GNOME in the top right corner, KDE4 on the
> left, KDE3 in the bottom right corner. The selected desktop would then
> turn to the top direction.
>
> I actually don't want to kick GNOME anywhere as I also don't prefer KDE
> or KDE3 to KDE4 or ...

Not you. But all others hide behind some technical constructs what they 
really want: to change the sequence in "their" way.

> | > On the other hand, I forgot to write that the desktop selection dialog
> | > also have to work in text-mode (ncurses). I can't imagine any (easy)
> | > implementation :( - Ncurses work with 80x25 characters screen.
> |
> | So leave it as it is now. The help text additions describe what a newbie
> | should think about - that is the most important thing.
>
> Which 'as it is now' do you mean? The current solution in Beta1 or
> Coolo's new proposal? That one doesn't help the newbie user at all. Text
> actually dont's say anything (they actually say: we don't say anything)
> ;) :)

Coolo's proposal. Stability, maturity, innovations, most recent, new 
technologies, (less) mature, stable.
Wonderful short sentences for a newbie's "risk management" (what did you 
already hear from your friends, how much would you rely on their help), 
all set at the right place.


Viele Grüße
Eberhard Mönkeberg (emoenke@xxxxxxx, em@xxxxxxx)