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Kevin Dupuy wrote:
| On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 23:46 +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote:
|> I'm just absolutely certain of one thing: it's stupid to have political
|> aspects (as it happened the previous time this question was raised, at
|> least IMHO) being the reason to decide for one or the other.
|
| I agree, which is why I believe it is ordered by alphabetical right now.
|
|> It must be
|> considered from an honest point of view for the good of the end-users
|> installing openSUSE.
|> The option giving them the least headaches should be the #1 on the list,
|> as it's most likely to be picked by those who have no idea what
|> KDE/GNOME/XFCE/... is and just want to "try Linux".
|
| I agree, but you know that we'll be bickering over that for weeks, so I
| support keeping it the way it is, with putting KDE 3 in the "Advanced
| Options" window along with XFCE, text, etc.
That, I think, is a big mistake. Sure, having most people use KDE4 is
much better for developers, as it means more testing and more bug reports.
But that's to the expense of unexperienced users who don't know which
one to pick. Is KDE4 really ready for stable everyday usage for
unexperienced users, right now ? (I don't want to sound polemic -- as
said, I didn't have time to test KDE4 a lot up to now, it's just that
I'm under the impression it isn't quite there yet, but I'm honestly
asking.. and of course, I might be completely wrong :))
Crashes and weird behaviour is the least thing we want a beginner to
have. Because in that case, most *won't* be asking for help on openSUSE
web forums, mailing-lists and IRC. Best case they'll switch to another
distro and tell everyone openSUSE is rubbish, unstable, crashed all the
time. Worst case they'll drop Linux completely, telling everyone Linux
is rubbish, unstable, crashing all the time.
(of course, *I* know the above is wrong, but from my experience, I
believe it's quite likely to happen for a non negligible amount of newbies)
So at the very least, KDE3 must be an option along side GNOME and KDE4,
in whatever order.
cheers
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~ -o) Pascal Bleser