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Michael Loeffler wrote:
| On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Stephan Kulow wrote:
[...]
|>> I would give a whole list with comments:
|>> --------------------------------------------------------
|>> Most of the users use one of those graphic modes:
|>> x KDE
|>> x GNOME
| For the KDE 3/4 discussion I see 2 possibilities then:
| 1.
| x Gnome
| x KDE4
| x KDE3
|
| 2.
| x Gnome
| x KDE
| x KDE4, short description
| x KDE3, short descrioption
| This KDE4/3 dialog is only shown after choosing KDE first.
| I personally vote for 2. as I think it's less confusing.
I vote for 1., because it's less confusing :)
To me the first option is a better balance between what a completely
unexperienced newcomer would be faced with, and what an experienced user
would expect to be able to configure.
People with at least a bit of experience with Linux know that there's
KDE3 and KDE4, and that they're not the same at all (certainly more in
common as with GNOME or other DEs/WMs but still).
At least I know that what I would expect from any distro is to be able
to choose directly between KDE4, KDE3 and GNOME.
Also, an additional step+click in the workflow should be avoided if
possible, from an ergonomics' perspective.
I don't to launch the debate again (at least not as a flame war), but
the order *is* important. Using alphabetical order is an excuse.
The reality is that what most people who don't already have a preference
infer from the order of options there is that the top item is the
"standard" and best supported desktop environment on openSUSE.
And please, please, please don't interpret this as a flame, as it isn't,
but the openSUSE desktop environment survey showed that >70% are using
KDE(3) and while it might still be a reluctant memory effect from
SUSE/S.u.S.E. times, my gut feeling is that KDE is still better
supported as of now (not to disregard the good work and heavy
involvement of the GNOME devs and packagers towards openSUSE since over
half a year). But, of course, I might be wrong :)
How about
[ ] KDE 4
[ ] GNOME
[ ] KDE 3
?
Arguably, that order also goes from the least stable on top to the most
stable at bottom. Not 100% sure that makes sense either.
I'm just absolutely certain of one thing: it's stupid to have political
aspects (as it happened the previous time this question was raised, at
least IMHO) being the reason to decide for one or the other. It must be
considered from an honest point of view for the good of the end-users
installing openSUSE.
The option giving them the least headaches should be the #1 on the list,
as it's most likely to be picked by those who have no idea what
KDE/GNOME/XFCE/... is and just want to "try Linux".
How about
[ ] KDE 3
[ ] GNOME
[ ] KDE 4
?
But clearly, I might be completely wrong here (except on the paragraph
above), as I didn't use GNOME since years and haven't had the time to
have a real shot at KDE4 recently.
cheers
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~ -o) Pascal Bleser