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[opensuse-es] Desfragmentación de volumenes XFS
by Juan Erbes 18 Apr '22

18 Apr '22

Sabiendo que la partición /home tenía ciertas inconsistencias, que había reparado a lo bruto con el comando: xfs_repair -L /dev/sdb2 Sabía que debía desfragmentarla, consulté y había contestado Carlos al respecto. Parte de la información, fue util, para ver el porcentage de fragmentación: xfs_db -c frag -r /dev/sdb2 Basado en la inercia de que con otros sistemas uno debe realizar la desfragmentación con la partición desmontada, motivo por el cual arranque con el DVD de instalación en modo "Rescue" (rescate), y ejecuté primero el comando citado, el cual me arrojó una fragmentación del 47.4% (adjunto captura de pantalla). Pero no encontré la forma de ejecutar el comando de desfragmentación xfs_fsr. Opté por iniciar normalmente el sistema, y me acordé del comando man, para ver como ejecutar el comando en cuestión, y allí me entero de que el volumen o partición puede estar montado, PERO NO MUEVE LOS ARCHIVOS ABIERTOS EN MEMORIA. Ver: man xfs_fsr Inicié la desfragmentación con el comando: xfs_fsr -vdg Despues de poco mas de una hora, vi que había terminado de desfragmentar la unidad de 1.8 TB, que tiene alrededor de 1 TB ocupado. Para ver como quedó, ejecuté: xfs_db -c frag -r /dev/sdb2 actual 309339, ideal 308055, fragmentation factor 0,42% Ojo! No se debería utilizar en unidades SSD. Aqui va parte del texto del manual: (en consola man xfs_fsr) When invoked with no arguments xfs_fsr reorganizes all regular files in all mounted filesystems. xfs_fsr makes many cycles over /etc/mtab each time making a single pass over each XFS filesystem. Each pass goes through and selects files that have the largest number of extents. It attempts to defragment the top 10% of these files on each pass. It runs for up to two hours after which it records the filesystem where it left off, so it can start there the next time. This information is stored in the file /var/tmp/.fsrlast_xfs. If the information found here is somehow inconsistent or out of date it is ignored and reorganization starts at the beginning of the first filesystem found in /etc/mtab. xfs_fsr can be called with one or more arguments naming filesystems (block device name), and files to reorganize. In this mode xfs_fsr does not read or write /var/tmp/.fsrlast_xfs nor does it run for a fixed time interval. It makes one pass through each specified regular file and all regular files in each specified filesystem. A command line name referring to a symbolic link (except to a file system device), FIFO, or UNIX domain socket generates a warning message, but is otherwise ignored. While traversing the filesystem these types of files are silently skipped. FILES /etc/mtab contains default list of filesystems to reorganize. /var/tmp/.fsrlast_xfs records the state where reorganization left off. SEE ALSO xfs_fsr(8), mkfs.xfs(8), xfs_ncheck(8), xfs(5). NOTES xfs_fsr improves the layout of extents for each file by copying the entire file to a temporary location and then interchanging the data extents of the target and temporary files in an atomic man- ner. This method requires that enough free disk space be available to copy any given file and that the space be less fragmented than the original file. It also requires the owner of the file to have enough remaining filespace quota to do the copy on systems running quotas. xfs_fsr generates a warning message if space is not sufficient to improve the target file. A temporary file used in improving a file given on the command line is created in the same parent directory of the target file and is prefixed by the string '.fsr'. The temporary files used in improving an entire XFS device are stored in a directory at the root of the target device and use the same naming scheme. The temporary files are unlinked upon creation so data will not be read- able by any other process. xfs_fsr does not operate on files that are currently mapped in memory. A 'file busy' error can be seen for these files if the verbose flag (-v) is set. -- USA LINUX OPENSUSE QUE ES SOFTWARE LIBRE, NO NECESITAS PIRATEAR NADA Y NI TE VAS A PREOCUPAR MAS POR LOS VIRUS Y SPYWARES: http://www.opensuse.org/es/ Puedes visitar mi blog en: http://jerbes.blogspot.com.ar/

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[opensuse-es] Una de Firewalld y VPN
by Francisco F. 02 Apr '19

02 Apr '19

OS 15.0 Una conexión a internet eth0 (zona externa) Una interna eth1 (Red 192.168.5.0) (zona interna) Firewalld activado y protegiendo las dos zonas. Tengo 4 conexiones VPN que me generan otras tantas conexiones ppp0-3 Están conectadas a la Zona interna. El caso es que para que las redes de las vpn vean a la red de eth1 y viceversa tengo que activar el enmascaramiento para la red interna, con lo cual todos los log de esas redes me sale como conectado el firewall para cualquier conexión. ¿Alguna sugerencia de configuración para no tener que usar enmascaramiento en la red interna? Saludos -- Para dar de baja la suscripción, mande un mensaje a: opensuse-es+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org Para obtener el resto de direcciones-comando, mande un mensaje a: opensuse-es+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-es] Fwd: Llegó el kernel 5.0 a Opensuse Tumbleweed
by Juan Erbes 19 Mar '19

19 Mar '19

Este era el mensaje rechazado de ayer con la IP del VPN que aparecía en las blacklist: https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a190.176.144.24&run=… Lo volví a redactar cambiando levemente el asunto. Salu2 ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Juan Erbes <jerbes(a)gmail.com> Date: sáb., 16 mar. 2019 a las 9:45 Subject: Llegó el kernel 5.0 a Opensuse Tumbleweed To: opensuse-es(a)opensuse.org <opensuse-es(a)opensuse.org> Ayer al actualizarle la pc a un amigo con Tumbleweed, me sorprendió al ver en Konsole que estaba descargando el kernel 5.0. https://www.linuxadictos.com/llega-el-kernel-5-0-con-mas-novedades-y-mayor-… https://victorhckinthefreeworld.com/2019/03/15/opensuse-tumbleweed-revision… Mi RX 580, también se ve favorecida: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.0-AMDGPU-Stable -- USA LINUX OPENSUSE QUE ES SOFTWARE LIBRE, NO NECESITAS PIRATEAR NADA Y NI TE VAS A PREOCUPAR MAS POR LOS VIRUS Y SPYWARES: http://www.opensuse.org/es/ Puedes visitar mi blog en: http://jerbes.blogspot.com.ar/ -- USA LINUX OPENSUSE QUE ES SOFTWARE LIBRE, NO NECESITAS PIRATEAR NADA Y NI TE VAS A PREOCUPAR MAS POR LOS VIRUS Y SPYWARES: http://www.opensuse.org/es/ Puedes visitar mi blog en: http://jerbes.blogspot.com.ar/ -- Para dar de baja la suscripción, mande un mensaje a: opensuse-es+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org Para obtener el resto de direcciones-comando, mande un mensaje a: opensuse-es+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-es] Nuevo kernel 5.0 para Opensuse Tumbleweed
by Juan Erbes 17 Mar '19

17 Mar '19

Antes de ayer al actualizarle la pc a un amigo con Tumbleweed, me sorprendió al ver en Konsole que estaba descargando el kernel 5.0. Mi pc la actualicé ayer, pero no se activó el nuevo kernel, y tampoco estaba activo el kernel anterior debido al siguiente error: dracut: Stored kernel commandline: dracut: resume=UUID=5f585c30-9547-49b9-ad05-51e21dbd0e66 dracut: root=UUID=4c613c43-2e09-455d-a6ff-475d3fd65698 rootfstype=btrfs rootflags=rw,relatime,space_cache,subvolid=930,subvol=/@/.snapshots/590/snapshot,subvol=@/.snapshots/590/snapshot dracut: *** Creating image file '/boot/initrd-5.0.1-1-default' *** dracut: *** Creating initramfs image file '/boot/initrd-5.0.1-1-default' done *** update-bootloader: 2019-03-16 16:22:34 <3> update-bootloader-0456 run_command.294: '/usr/lib/bootloader/grub2/config' failed with exit code 1, output: <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< + /usr/sbin/grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg Generating grub configuration file ... Found theme: /boot/grub2/themes/openSUSE/theme.txt Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.0.1-1-default Found initrd image: /boot/initrd-5.0.1-1-default Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.20.13-1-default Found initrd image: /boot/initrd-4.20.13-1-default Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.20.12-1-default Found initrd image: /boot/initrd-4.20.12-1-default Found openSUSE Leap 42.3 on /dev/sda2 Found Windows 10 on /dev/sda3 ERROR: failed to lookup root id: Inappropriate ioctl for device >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Updating bootloader failed La solución fue agregar @/.snapshots al /etc/fstab con su respectivo UUID, tal como cita: https://www.reddit.com/r/openSUSE/comments/7y7l6m/tw_updating_bootloader_fa… Estos son los cambios del kernel 5.0: https://www.linuxadictos.com/llega-el-kernel-5-0-con-mas-novedades-y-mayor-… https://victorhckinthefreeworld.com/2019/03/15/opensuse-tumbleweed-revision… Mi RX 580, también se ve favorecida: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.0-AMDGPU-Stable Salu2 PD: veremos si llega a la lista! -- USA LINUX OPENSUSE QUE ES SOFTWARE LIBRE, NO NECESITAS PIRATEAR NADA Y NI TE VAS A PREOCUPAR MAS POR LOS VIRUS Y SPYWARES: http://www.opensuse.org/es/ Puedes visitar mi blog en: http://jerbes.blogspot.com.ar/ -- Para dar de baja la suscripción, mande un mensaje a: opensuse-es+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org Para obtener el resto de direcciones-comando, mande un mensaje a: opensuse-es+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-es] Re: Bouncing messages from opensuse-es@opensuse.org
by Juan Erbes 17 Mar '19

17 Mar '19

Alguien sabe porque son rechazados los mensajes? El mar., 12 feb. 2019 a las 21:00, <opensuse-es+owner(a)opensuse.org> escribió: > > Hi, this is the Mlmmj program managing the <opensuse-es(a)opensuse.org> > mailing list. > > Some messages to you could not be delivered. If you're seeing this > message it means things are back to normal, and it's merely for your > information. > > Here is the list of the bounced messages: > - 67584 > - 67586 > > -- USA LINUX OPENSUSE QUE ES SOFTWARE LIBRE, NO NECESITAS PIRATEAR NADA Y NI TE VAS A PREOCUPAR MAS POR LOS VIRUS Y SPYWARES: http://www.opensuse.org/es/ Puedes visitar mi blog en: http://jerbes.blogspot.com.ar/ -- Para dar de baja la suscripción, mande un mensaje a: opensuse-es+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org Para obtener el resto de direcciones-comando, mande un mensaje a: opensuse-es+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-es] Unsubscribe
by Jordi Martínez Sánchez 13 Mar '19

13 Mar '19

Unsubscribe -- Para dar de baja la suscripción, mande un mensaje a: opensuse-es+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org Para obtener el resto de direcciones-comando, mande un mensaje a: opensuse-es+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-es] Consulta smartctl
by Juan Erbes 09 Mar '19

09 Mar '19

Hola gente! Tengo un disco duro de 2 TB, con 2 particiones, una de 40 GB (demasiado chica) que uso como raiz con Tumbleweed y otra de aproximadamente 1.8 TB que utilizo como /home. En algunas oportunidades tarda en arrancar cuando lo detecta la bios y como tiene alrededor de 6 años de uso (no continuo), con 5526 horas de uso estaba viendo de reemplazarlo y compré ayer otro disco de 2 TB, http://products.wdc.com/library/SpecSheet/ENG/2879-701338.pdf Pero que la garantía de Western Digital expiró en el año 2016 y el vendedor local me da solamente 6 meses de garantía. Aparentemente se trata de un stock fabricado para Dell, que no fueron utilizados y salieron ahora al mercado con la garantia del vendedor: https://www.amazon.com/Dell-2G4HM-2TB-WD2003FYYS-18W0B0/dp/B007NIE1F2 Este es el resultado de smartctl -a /dev/sdb Está mal el valor de Spin_Up_Time? ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 016 Pre-fail Always - 0 2 Throughput_Performance 0x0005 139 139 054 Pre-fail Offline - 71 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 128 128 024 Pre-fail Always - 295 (Average 295) smartctl 6.6 2017-11-05 r4594 [x86_64-linux-4.20.12-1-default] (SUSE RPM) Copyright (C) 2002-17, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Toshiba 3.5" DT01ACA... Desktop HDD Device Model: TOSHIBA DT01ACA200 Serial Number: Y4F86JKAS LU WWN Device Id: 5 000039 ffadfea81 Firmware Version: MX4OABB0 User Capacity: 2.000.398.934.016 bytes [2,00 TB] Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm Form Factor: 3.5 inches Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4 SATA Version is: SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s) Local Time is: Thu Mar 7 18:11:15 2019 -03 SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x80) Offline data collection activity was never started. Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: (14918) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. No Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 249) minutes. SCT capabilities: (0x003d) SCT Status supported. SCT Error Recovery Control supported. SCT Feature Control supported. SCT Data Table supported. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 016 Pre-fail Always - 0 2 Throughput_Performance 0x0005 139 139 054 Pre-fail Offline - 71 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 128 128 024 Pre-fail Always - 295 (Average 295) 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 2425 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 005 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 067 Pre-fail Always - 0 8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0005 124 124 020 Pre-fail Offline - 33 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 5526 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 060 Pre-fail Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 2255 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 098 098 000 Old_age Always - 2425 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0012 098 098 000 Old_age Always - 2425 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 139 139 000 Old_age Always - 43 (Min/Max 11/47) 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0022 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0008 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 SMART Error Log Version: 1 No Errors Logged SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 5525 - # 2 Short offline Completed without error 00% 5522 - # 3 Short offline Completed without error 00% 5517 - # 4 Extended offline Interrupted (host reset) 80% 5512 - # 5 Short offline Completed without error 00% 5507 - # 6 Short offline Completed without error 00% 5493 - # 7 Short offline Completed without error 00% 5486 - # 8 Short offline Completed without error 00% 5480 - # 9 Short offline Completed without error 00% 5474 - #10 Short offline Completed without error 00% 5465 - #11 Short offline Completed without error 00% 5459 - #12 Short offline Completed without error 00% 5450 - #13 Short offline Completed without error 00% 5441 - #14 Short offline Completed without error 00% 5435 - #15 Short offline Completed without error 00% 5426 - #16 Short offline Completed without error 00% 5422 - #17 Short offline Completed without error 00% 5416 - #18 Short offline Completed without error 00% 5406 - #19 Short offline Completed without error 00% 5399 - #20 Short offline Completed without error 00% 5391 - #21 Short offline Completed without error 00% 5387 - SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS 1 0 0 Not_testing 2 0 0 Not_testing 3 0 0 Not_testing 4 0 0 Not_testing 5 0 0 Not_testing Selective self-test flags (0x0): After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay. Se me dió por realizar el test con el otro disco, y a pesar de ser más nuevo, parece estar peor: smartctl -a /dev/sda smartctl 6.6 2017-11-05 r4594 [x86_64-linux-4.20.12-1-default] (SUSE RPM) Copyright (C) 2002-17, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Western Digital Blue Device Model: WDC WD10EZEX-60WN4A0 Serial Number: WD-WCC6Y1CPU7TZ LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 2b9522480 Firmware Version: 01.01A01 User Capacity: 1.000.204.886.016 bytes [1,00 TB] Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm Form Factor: 3.5 inches Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 5 SATA Version is: SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s) Local Time is: Thu Mar 7 18:40:53 2019 -03 SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity was completed without error. Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: (11040) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. No Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 114) minutes. SCT capabilities: (0x303d) SCT Status supported. SCT Error Recovery Control supported. SCT Feature Control supported. SCT Data Table supported. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 174 168 021 Pre-fail Always - 2291 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 1021 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002f 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 097 097 000 Old_age Always - 2429 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0033 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 1021 183 Runtime_Bad_Block 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 184 End-to-End_Error 0x0033 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 0 187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 097 000 Old_age Always - 6 188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 001 000 Old_age Always - 25770197364 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 059 056 040 Old_age Always - 41 (Min/Max 29/41) 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 175 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 1979 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 102 099 000 Old_age Always - 41 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 200 200 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 183 000 Old_age Always - 446 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 200 200 000 Old_age Offline - 0 SMART Error Log Version: 1 No Errors Logged SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 2428 - # 2 Short offline Completed without error 00% 2425 - # 3 Short offline Completed without error 00% 2420 - # 4 Extended offline Interrupted (host reset) 80% 2415 - # 5 Short offline Completed without error 00% 2410 - # 6 Extended offline Aborted by host 70% 2404 - # 7 Short offline Completed without error 00% 2396 - # 8 Short offline Completed without error 00% 2389 - # 9 Short offline Completed without error 00% 2384 - #10 Short offline Completed without error 00% 2377 - #11 Short offline Completed without error 00% 2368 - #12 Short offline Completed without error 00% 2362 - #13 Short offline Completed without error 00% 2353 - #14 Short offline Completed without error 00% 2344 - #15 Short offline Completed without error 00% 2338 - #16 Short offline Completed without error 00% 2329 - #17 Short offline Completed without error 00% 2326 - #18 Short offline Completed without error 00% 2320 - #19 Short offline Completed without error 00% 2309 - #20 Short offline Completed without error 00% 2302 - #21 Short offline Completed without error 00% 2294 - SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS 1 0 0 Not_testing 2 0 0 Not_testing 3 0 0 Not_testing 4 0 0 Not_testing 5 0 0 Not_testing Selective self-test flags (0x0): After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay. ¿Consejos? Por ahora, veré si conecto el disco "nuevo" para ver que realmente me de cero horas de uso. Salu2 -- USA LINUX OPENSUSE QUE ES SOFTWARE LIBRE, NO NECESITAS PIRATEAR NADA Y NI TE VAS A PREOCUPAR MAS POR LOS VIRUS Y SPYWARES: http://www.opensuse.org/es/ Puedes visitar mi blog en: http://jerbes.blogspot.com.ar/ -- Para dar de baja la suscripción, mande un mensaje a: opensuse-es+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org Para obtener el resto de direcciones-comando, mande un mensaje a: opensuse-es+help(a)opensuse.org

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