Dear listmembers, when installing the new ATI drivers on my son's computer I think I found the reason why I have been struggling with the installation since the release 8.14.13 (SuSE 9.3): the file that is the call-parameter for sax2 changed. This seems to make sax2 write erratic values into /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Please see the following example: "original" config-File generated by sax2 (excerpt): This is always the same: Section "Monitor" DisplaySize 380 290 HorizSync 28-130 Identifier "Monitor[0]" ModelName "HP P1130" Option "DPMS" VendorName "HWP" VertRefresh 43-170 UseModes "Modes[0]" EndSection But here we go: ************************************************************** Section "Modes" Identifier "Modes[0]" Modeline "640x480" 23.06 640 656 720 800 480 481 484 497 Modeline "640x480" 27.74 640 664 728 816 480 481 484 500 Modeline "640x480" 32.64 640 672 736 832 480 481 484 503 Modeline "640x480" 36.97 640 672 736 832 480 481 484 505 Modeline "640x480" 42.22 640 680 744 848 480 481 484 508 Modeline "640x480" 46.80 640 680 744 848 480 481 484 511 Modeline "640x480" 51.43 640 680 744 848 480 481 484 514 Modeline "640x480" 57.18 640 680 752 864 480 481 484 517 Modeline "640x480" 62.12 640 680 752 864 480 481 484 521 Modeline "1600x1200" 155.47 1600 1704 1880 2160 1200 1201 1204 1241 Modeline "1600x1200" 184.66 1600 1712 1888 2176 1200 1201 1204 1248 Modeline "1600x1200" 214.57 1600 1720 1896 2192 1200 1201 1204 1255 Modeline "1600x1200" 245.21 1600 1728 1904 2208 1200 1201 1204 1262 Modeline "1600x1200" 274.59 1600 1728 1904 2208 1200 1201 1204 1269 Modeline "1600x1200" 306.73 1600 1736 1912 2224 1200 1201 1204 1277 Modeline "1600x1200" 336.96 1600 1736 1912 2224 1200 1201 1204 1284 Modeline "1600x1200" 367.80 1600 1736 1912 2224 1200 1201 1204 1292 Modeline "1600x1200" 401.86 1600 1744 1920 2240 1200 1201 1204 1300 Modeline "1400x1050" 118.42 1400 1488 1640 1880 1050 1051 1054 1086 Modeline "1400x1050" 140.79 1400 1496 1648 1896 1050 1051 1054 1092 Modeline "1400x1050" 163.75 1400 1504 1656 1912 1050 1051 1054 1098 Modeline "1400x1050" 185.75 1400 1504 1656 1912 1050 1051 1054 1104 Modeline "1400x1050" 209.92 1400 1512 1664 1928 1050 1051 1054 1111 Modeline "1400x1050" 232.59 1400 1512 1664 1928 1050 1051 1054 1117 Modeline "1400x1050" 257.84 1400 1520 1672 1944 1050 1051 1054 1124 Modeline "1400x1050" 281.43 1400 1520 1672 1944 1050 1051 1054 1131 Modeline "1400x1050" 305.03 1400 1520 1672 1944 1050 1051 1054 1137 Modeline "1280x1024" 105.15 1280 1360 1496 1712 1024 1025 1028 1059 Modeline "1280x1024" 125.14 1280 1368 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1065 Modeline "1280x1024" 145.69 1280 1376 1512 1744 1024 1025 1028 1071 Modeline "1280x1024" 165.29 1280 1376 1512 1744 1024 1025 1028 1077 Modeline "1280x1024" 186.80 1280 1376 1520 1760 1024 1025 1028 1083 Modeline "1280x1024" 207.19 1280 1376 1520 1760 1024 1025 1028 1090 Modeline "1280x1024" 229.69 1280 1384 1528 1776 1024 1025 1028 1096 Modeline "1280x1024" 250.74 1280 1384 1528 1776 1024 1025 1028 1103 Modeline "1280x1024" 271.80 1280 1384 1528 1776 1024 1025 1028 1109 Modeline "1024x768" 61.89 1024 1080 1184 1344 768 769 772 794 Modeline "1024x768" 73.89 1024 1080 1192 1360 768 769 772 799 Modeline "1024x768" 86.18 1024 1088 1200 1376 768 769 772 803 Modeline "1024x768" 97.84 1024 1088 1200 1376 768 769 772 808 Modeline "1024x768" 110.91 1024 1096 1208 1392 768 769 772 813 Modeline "1024x768" 122.97 1024 1096 1208 1392 768 769 772 818 Modeline "1024x768" 136.57 1024 1104 1216 1408 768 769 772 822 Modeline "1024x768" 149.05 1024 1104 1216 1408 768 769 772 827 Modeline "1024x768" 161.66 1024 1104 1216 1408 768 769 772 832 Modeline "800x600" 36.88 800 832 912 1024 600 601 604 621 Modeline "800x600" 44.13 800 840 920 1040 600 601 604 624 Modeline "800x600" 51.73 800 840 928 1056 600 601 604 628 Modeline "800x600" 58.73 800 840 928 1056 600 601 604 632 Modeline "800x600" 66.71 800 848 936 1072 600 601 604 635 Modeline "800x600" 73.98 800 848 936 1072 600 601 604 639 Modeline "800x600" 82.55 800 856 944 1088 600 601 604 643 Modeline "800x600" 90.10 800 856 944 1088 600 601 604 647 Modeline "800x600" 97.59 800 856 944 1088 600 601 604 650 EndSection ************************************************************** The "fixed" version shows: ************************************************************** Section "Modes" Identifier "Modes[0]" EndSection ************************************************************** This is always the same: Section "Screen" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1600x1200" "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x48 EndSubSection Device "Device[0]" Identifier "Screen[0]" Monitor "Monitor[0]" EndSection The dotclocks seem very high to me. Actually there are no modelines required by the ATI-driver and for some reason they stay - I think that can be configured by the file that is handed over as parameter. Up to the version 8.14.13 I configured the driver using the call sax2 -r -m 0=fgrlx -b /usr/X11R6/lib/sax/profile/firegl From then on I used what was written down in the README.SuSE within the directory /usr/share/doc/packages/firegl, and that seems to cause the issues I have been pointing to above. sax2 -r -m 0=firegl -b /usr/share/doc/packages/fglrx/sax2-profile Maybe only few people actually run at 1600x1200 like I do - I do not know. To be more precise, I even have to add --lowres as a parameter, what was not neccessary up to version 8.14.13. Whatsoever, the result is not satisfying. Moreover I detected several entries being duplicated in the generated xorg.conf file. So, probably someone at SuSE finds the time to look into this issue. My solution was: set up all parameters at low resolution, store the xorg.conf file (but never test!), then delete all the modelines -> system is now functional. It is not a driver issue, it is a sax2 issue. Take care Dieter Jurzitza -- ----------------------------------------------------------- | \ /\_/\ | | ~x~ |/-----\ / \ /- \_/ ^^__ _ / _ ____ / <°°__ \- \_/ | |/ | | || || _| _| _| _| if you really want to see the pictures above - use some font with constant spacing like courier! :-) -----------------------------------------------------------