On Wednesday 07 July 2010 16:55:14 Tim Mohlmann wrote:

Just explain how this transferring this works, the rest I will find out myself.

I would use transfer over export and import functions of the wiki with whole article history. Export: http://en.opensuse.org/Special:Export 1) Uncheck "Include only the current revision, not the full history" 2) List articles that you want to export, one name per line. New line is when you press Enter, not when articles name is longer then space and wraps around. Note: If you have too many articles in the list it can happen that server fails, just go with lesser files in the list. Import: http://wiki.opensuse.org/Special:Import Select exported file and upload it. Note that July 12th, wiki.opensuse.org and en.opensuse.org will lead to the same server, which is current wiki.opensuse.org. Old content will be at http://old-en.opensuse.org .

(Off course if you trust this delicate case to a stranger)

We are all strangers :) The only thing that makes us trustworthy is our work. As long as you don't get angry because people edit articles that you fixed it is all fine. It is a wiki, so edits that make article look better, but also the other way around, happen all the time. -- Regards Rajko, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org

On Thursday 08 July 2010 13:03:04 Tim Mohlmann wrote:

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Import: http://wiki.opensuse.org/Special:Import

I get a permission error here. Not member of the administrator group ;-)

Send list of files that you want to move and I'll do it. It would be good, if you have time, to propose new titles , so that I can import under new titles skipping moving articles around. I'll see to add navigation between articles etc. You will have to fix images that are used by articles. -- Regards Rajko, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org

On Friday 09 July 2010 06:36:36 Tim Mohlmann wrote:

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This is list: Easy-LTSP Easy-LTSP LTSP/Quick start/Easy-LTSP SDB:Easy-LTSP quick start LTSP/4.2 Archive:LTSP 4.2 LTSP/AoE SDB:KIWI-LTSP ATA over Ethernet LTSP/CD Quickstart Archive:KIWI-LTSP CD quick start LTSP/Configuration SDB:KIWI-LTSP configuration LTSP/Configuration/Network SDB:KIWI-LTSP network configuration LTSP/Diskless node SDB:KIWI-LTSP diskless node LTSP/Fatclient Archive:KIWI-LTSP fatclient LTSP/Icecream SDB:KIWI-LTSP Icecream LTSP/Localapps SDB:KIWI-LTSP Localapps LTSP/Quick start SDB:KIWI-LTSP quick start LTSP/SLED10 SDB:KIWI-LTSP on SLED10 LTSP/Scanner SDB:KIWI-LTSP scanner LTSP/Tips and Tricks SDB:KIWI-LTSP tips and tricks LTSP/Transcoding SDB:KIWI-LTSP transcoding LTSP/Troubleshooting SDB:KIWI-LTSP troubleshooting LTSP/USB Quickstart Archive:KIWI-LTSP USB quick start LTSP/Updating SDB:KIWI-LTSP updating LTSP/iTALC SDB:KIWI-LTSP iTALC Easy-LTSP/GSoC Ideas openSUSE:Easy-LTSP GSoC ideas I corrected title capitalization. We would like to follow Wikipedia style. I just uploaded whole file and then will move per list above. Playing with XML file with multiple articles and revisions is not really in my domain yet. {{TransferNote|<target page>}} will be set in a future old-en.opensuse.org, probably before you read this email :)

Not sure where to put: (openSUSE: or SDB: namespace) LTSP/Nomad Since it's marked to be very experimental

I can't find many Google references for Nomad. It seems that is dropped from 11.2.

LTSP/Other Distros It's not support for openSUSE, but it is related to the project which is based on openSUSE

It is similar in concept to openSUSE Build Service, to allow users of other distros to see something openSUSE.

Do we also transfer stubs? LTSP/Printers with Firmware to SDB:KIWI-LTSP Printer with Firmware

IMO, no. -- Regards Rajko, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org

I'm done with transfer and move. I will leave old links, now redirects, so that people from outside can find pages and that other links within LTPS work until you (or someone) fix them to point to actual titles, not redirects. The only wiki page that will suffer "pollution" because those links are not removed is http://wiki.opensuse.org/Special:AllPages . That one is not meant as regular browsing aid, but more as last resort to find pages that one has no link, and can't remember exact title. -- Regards Rajko, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org

Rajko, This code: <repository type="rpm-md"> <source path="http://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/11.2/"/> </repository> Makes trouble on http://wiki.opensuse.org/SDB:KIWI-LTSP_local_applications How to fix? Tim 2010/7/10 Tim Mohlmann :

Thanks!

First I will start cleaning up category. All pages are now in LTSP (Still red link) and this will KIWI-LTSP, off course. Also some articles are still in HOWTO's and other worthless categories. After that I will make a nice navigation within the portal, so people can find there pages. Than I will clean the redirects. I'm still trying to understand the <categorytree> extension. Last time it destroyed all my titles in the Portal :P. I will get there eventually.

Greets, Tim

2010/7/10 Rajko M. :

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I'm done with transfer and move.

I will leave old links, now redirects, so that people from outside can find pages and that other links within LTPS work until you (or someone) fix them to point to actual titles, not redirects.

The only wiki page that will suffer "pollution" because those links are not removed is http://wiki.opensuse.org/Special:AllPages . That one is not meant as regular browsing aid, but more as last resort to find pages that one has no link, and can't remember exact title.

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On Saturday 10 July 2010 12:21:52 Tim Mohlmann wrote:

Rajko,

This code: <repository type="rpm-md"> <source path="http://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/11.2/"/> </repository> Makes trouble on http://wiki.opensuse.org/SDB:KIWI-LTSP_local_applications

How to fix?

Parser reported unknown tag <repository> :) I enclosed text in <pre> and </pre> tags, so they will be ignored. -- Regards Rajko, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org

Rajko, Transferring all images is done. It's was a hell off a job, but o well.. Wrting my Quick and Dirty script didn't work out, since the actual files are stored in random subpages (eg en.o.o/3/3e, en.o.o/8/8f) Tried something with wildcards in my commands, but this resulted in an awful lot of shit on my computer, but no Images (not any that I was able to open anyway).

From the 3 pages in my previous mail, cancel that. Only transfer: LTSP_Old to Archive:LTSP Legacy

I will do something nice with the other 2 in Portal: After that, where done with this toppic! Greeting, Tim 2010/7/10 Tim Mohlmann :

Rajko,

Some more pages that I encountered:

 How Does KIWI-LTSP work I have now clue where to put it. But it is still interesting. It will make a nice "featured article" in the portal's dynamic box, if it only was more compact. If you don't know a proper place, put it in Portal:KIWI-LTSP/Featured article/3 and I will try to make something of it.

  LTSP_Old For Archive:, maybe with a better name. As I can see these instructions apply for 10.2 in the preliminary stages of the project.

  Easy-LTSP-NG/Screenshots  to   openSUSE:Easy-LTSP Screenshots next release Screenshots for next release or something? It is being linked from Easy-LTSP. Or maybe put the Images in a Featured Image box on the portal, and mention it in title that it's about the next release?

I know you said that I will transfer the Images, but without being able to use the Import function this is a hell of a job. The File: pages don't need a rename anyway. What if I just provide you a list (again) and you transfer them one-on-one. This should fix the Images in the articles immediately (and saving me a lot of work):

File:Easy-ltsp-ng1.png File:Easy-ltsp-ng2.png File:Easy-ltsp-ng3.png File:Easy-ltsp-ng4.png File:Easy-ltsp1.png File:Easy-ltsp2.png File:Easy-ltsp3.png File:Easy-ltsp4.png File:Easy-ltsp5.png File:Easy-ltsp6.png File:Easy-ltsp7.png File:Easy-ltsp8.png File:Easy-ltsp9.png File:Kiwi-ltsp-diagram-edited1.jpg File:Ltsp sysconfig.png File:Ltsp network.png File:Ltsp-network1.png File:Ltsp-firewall1.png

Category work: Done. Internal links on all pages not pointing to redirects: Done (Promised the guys to keep the redirects for some time for external pages linking to this wiki pages) Nice Categorytrees on Portal: for all articles: Done (Finaly got it working how I wanted!!)

So, if above Images and the 3 pages are transfered (or decided not to) work for us is done here.

Greetings, Tim

2010/7/10 Rajko M. :

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On Saturday 10 July 2010 12:21:52 Tim Mohlmann wrote:

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Rajko,

This code: <repository type="rpm-md">                 <source path="http://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/11.2/"/>         </repository> Makes trouble on http://wiki.opensuse.org/SDB:KIWI-LTSP_local_applications

How to fix?

Parser reported unknown tag <repository> :) I enclosed text in <pre> and </pre> tags, so they will be ignored.

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On Sunday 11 July 2010 15:08:23 Tim Mohlmann wrote:

Transferring all images is done. It's was a hell off a job, but o well.. Wrting my Quick and Dirty script didn't work out, since the actual files are stored in random subpages (eg en.o.o/3/3e, en.o.o/8/8f)

Yes.

Tried something with wildcards in my commands, but this resulted in an awful lot of shit on my computer, but no Images (not any that I was able to open anyway).

The logic is: Wiki article contains somewhere included File:Some_file_or_image.suffix File:Some_file_or_image.suffix contains among other things link (path) to actual image Some_file_or_image.suffix . Suffix is jpeg, jpg, png, pdf etc. So you can use wget to download File:Some_file_or_image.suffix then parse for: <server>/<path>/Some_file_or_image.suffix put that in the list and then ask wget to download the list and put all files in one directory. Upload is still manual procedure as MediaWiki software must know where the image is stored. As we didn't systematically use import feature now it can make unexpected conflicts with existing File:Some_file_or_image.suffix , nor very likely as Christian pointed, but still possible.

From the 3 pages in my previous mail, cancel that. Only transfer: LTSP_Old to Archive:LTSP Legacy

Just in case that you haven't seen. We decided to use Wikipedia style for article title and section title capitalization. They use capital letter for first word in the title and for proper nouns. Applied to above LTSP_old and Archive:LTSP_legacy. In general it would be Archive:Some_article_about_the_Internet . The Internet is proper noun in English.

I will do something nice with the other 2 in Portal:

After that, where done with this toppic!

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Thanks for the hints! Yeah, IRC is a bit unstable for me, as I set in other topic, currently in libya, using ssh tunnel to home for internet, big lags, instable connections etc. I give it tries whenever it's neccecary ;). 2010/7/8 Thomas Schmidt :

On 07.07.2010 23:55, Tim Mohlmann wrote:

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Rajko,

If you'd allow me, I'm even willing to do the complete transfer of this specific topic. There a lot of sub-articles (Refer to http://en.opensuse.org/Category:LTSP) and not much time and I know you guys are very busy. As you said, it needs a big namespace classification and I think a lot of links are going to need fixing. As well as it could use a proper navigation.

Just explain how this transferring this works, the rest I will find out myself. (Off course if you trust this delicate case to a stranger)

Hi Tim, thanks for helping with this! We have two articles that explain the new wiki concepts: http://news.opensuse.org/2010/07/05/a-new-hope/ http://news.opensuse.org/2010/07/08/the-devil-is-in-the-details/

and the wiki Portal (http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:Wiki) which links all relevant pages that explain the structure, templates, style guides etc.

For concrete questions, please join #opensuse-wiki most of the time there is someone to help online.

Greetings

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Greetings, Tim

2010/7/7 Tim Mohlmann :

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I will pick this up. Maybe it would be nice to create a category tree for this pages. I'm sure I already encountered a page containing something like it, or am I getting confused here. Can't find it anymore, only that it still has to be fixed. http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:Support/TODO.

2010/7/7 Jigish Gohil :

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Hi Tim

Most of the stuff in http://en.opensuse.org/Category:LTSP has been posted by me. It would be nice if wiki people can do the moving, I will be happy to fix anything that breaks after a move.

Cheers

-J

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Tim Mohlmann wrote:

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Hi there,

I came across http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP during my big "ssh" search. I'm wondering, the transfer / review of this kind of project pages (although it's not a real openSUSE project) , is there a responsibility of the project people, or the "wiki" people. I don't want to be touching something regarding a project I don't know much off. I've put the LTSP mailinglist in CC, maybe they are unaware of the transition.

Greetings, Tim

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