Another problem with 9.2 Receive System Messages via E-Mail doesn't work. How can i start this service. Before was OK and i got mails as user and read with a Pine but now nothing. Please help me. Thank you, Mitja
* mitja
Another problem with 9.2
No, not with 9.2, with your configuration.
Receive System Messages via E-Mail doesn't work. How can i start this service. Before was OK and i got mails as user and read with a Pine but now nothing.
You need to open YaST2 and set root's mail to be delivered to you. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos
On Saturday 13 November 2004 6:55 pm, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Receive System Messages via E-Mail doesn't work. How can i start this service. Before was OK and i got mails as user and read with a Pine but now nothing.
You need to open YaST2 and set root's mail to be delivered to you.
I didn't see any way in YAST to do this, can you explain this ?? -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800
* Paul Cartwright
I didn't see any way in YAST to do this, can you explain this ??
Did you search the sysconfig editor for mail?? -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos
On Saturday 13 November 2004 9:09 pm, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
I didn't see any way in YAST to do this, can you explain this ??
Did you search the sysconfig editor for mail??
no I didn't, but I did now and found it, thanks! -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800
On Saturday 13 November 2004 18:55, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* mitja
[11-13-04 11:21]: Another problem with 9.2
No, not with 9.2, with your configuration.
Receive System Messages via E-Mail doesn't work. How can i start this service. Before was OK and i got mails as user and read with a Pine but now nothing.
You need to open YaST2 and set root's mail to be delivered to you.
I opened YAST2 - System - etc/sysconfig Editor - Sytem - SuSEconfig - MAI_REPORTS_TO (i wrote root) - MAIL_LEVEL (i choose ''all'') and FINISH. Where is a problem? 9.2 or mine configuration?
* Mitja
I opened YAST2 - System - etc/sysconfig Editor - Sytem - SuSEconfig - MAI_REPORTS_TO (i wrote root) - MAIL_LEVEL (i choose ''all'') and FINISH. Where is a problem? 9.2 or mine configuration?
yours, you are *not* root. You want the reports and root's mail sent to *you*. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos
On Saturday 13 November 2004 21:08, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Mitja
[11-13-04 19:58]: I opened YAST2 - System - etc/sysconfig Editor - Sytem - SuSEconfig - MAI_REPORTS_TO (i wrote root) - MAIL_LEVEL (i choose ''all'') and FINISH. Where is a problem? 9.2 or mine configuration?
yours, you are *not* root. You want the reports and root's mail sent to *you*.
I want the reports sent to root. Before i had repots to sent to ''me'' and was same. Are there something other to configure, please?
* Mitja
I want the reports sent to root. Before i had repots to sent to ''me'' and was same. Are there something other to configure, please?
If you want the reports sent to root, you will have to read root's mail to see them unless you have root's mail sent to *you*. To have root's mail sent to you, edit /etc/aliases to have root's mail forwarded to you. (but I do not know where to do it in YaST2) -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
To have root's mail sent to you, edit /etc/aliases to have root's mail forwarded to you. (but I do not know where to do it in YaST2)
yast2>Network Services>Mail Transfer Agent>Next>Next>Forward root's mail to -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Registered Linux user 231871
* Joe Morris (NTM)
yast2>Network Services>Mail Transfer Agent>Next>Next>Forward root's mail to
thanks Joe. Now if I can just remember. Like an old dog, learned about /etc/aliases first <grin>. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos
On Sun, 2004-11-14 at 09:09, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
To have root's mail sent to you, edit /etc/aliases to have root's mail forwarded to you. (but I do not know where to do it in YaST2)
yast2>Network Services>Mail Transfer Agent>Next>Next>Forward root's mail to
I've been following this thread and noticed that I have a funny problem relating to receiving root's mail. I set this up on install, but somehow never got around to seeing root's mail till I read the thread. I now noticed that I received root's mail in /var/spool/mail/"my user name". In that file are included 19 messages mostly to root, but also 6 messages to my regular e-mail address! This address is a pop account from which I download (using mozilla) via my local ISP. The pop server is in the US and I am in India. How could these six messages wind up in /var/spool/mail/my user ? Ordinarily my mail goes directly into my inbox in mozilla (folders which are in /home/myuser/.mozilla/~ . I am using Suse pro 9.1 with the packages from the CD's and some YOU updates. I have not otherwise changed any other packages. This is really odd. Any ideas? Thanks, Gus.
On Sun, 2004-11-14 at 18:21 +0530, rada and gus wrote:
On Sun, 2004-11-14 at 09:09, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
To have root's mail sent to you, edit /etc/aliases to have root's mail forwarded to you. (but I do not know where to do it in YaST2)
yast2>Network Services>Mail Transfer Agent>Next>Next>Forward root's mail to
I've been following this thread and noticed that I have a funny problem relating to receiving root's mail. I set this up on install, but somehow never got around to seeing root's mail till I read the thread.
I now noticed that I received root's mail in /var/spool/mail/"my user name".
In that file are included 19 messages mostly to root, but also 6 messages to my regular e-mail address! This address is a pop account from which I download (using mozilla) via my local ISP.
The pop server is in the US and I am in India. How could these six messages wind up in /var/spool/mail/my user ? Ordinarily my mail goes directly into my inbox in mozilla (folders which are in /home/myuser/.mozilla/~ . I am using Suse pro 9.1 with the packages from the CD's and some YOU updates. I have not otherwise changed any other packages.
This is really odd. Any ideas? Thanks, Gus.
When you set up the mail transfer agent in YaST, you must have configured fetchmail to collect your pop mail - that's the bit where you enter your pop server details and also where you want root's mail to go (YaST > Network Services > Mail Transfer Agent > Incoming Mail). If you prefer to use Mozilla mail to directly query the pop server, then you'll need to go into YaST and remove those details - but leave the setting to pass root's mail to the user.To get at root's mail, configure an account in Mozilla to access /var/spool/mail/user (I think it has to be set up as a movemail account)). What's happening at the moment is that Fetchmail is retrieving and removing some of your mail at regular intervals. When you fire up Mozilla, you'll get mail that has arrived in between Fetchmail polls, but miss all the other stuff (which is sitting in /var/spool/mail/user). David -- "Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance" -Sam Brown
On Sun, 2004-11-14 at 19:15, David Robertson wrote:
On Sun, 2004-11-14 at 18:21 +0530, rada and gus wrote:
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I now noticed that I received root's mail in /var/spool/mail/"my user name".
In that file are included 19 messages mostly to root, but also 6 messages to my regular e-mail address! This address is a pop account from which I download (using mozilla) via my local ISP. <snip>
This is really odd. Any ideas? Thanks, Gus.
When you set up the mail transfer agent in YaST, you must have configured fetchmail to collect your pop mail - that's the bit where you enter your pop server details and also where you want root's mail to go (YaST > Network Services > Mail Transfer Agent > Incoming Mail). If you prefer to use Mozilla mail to directly query the pop server, then you'll need to go into YaST and remove those details - but leave the setting to pass root's mail to the user.To get at root's mail, configure an account in Mozilla to access /var/spool/mail/user (I think it has to be set up as a movemail account)).
What's happening at the moment is that Fetchmail is retrieving and removing some of your mail at regular intervals. When you fire up Mozilla, you'll get mail that has arrived in between Fetchmail polls, but miss all the other stuff (which is sitting in /var/spool/mail/user).
David
David, hanks for your really fast reply. Looks like you're right in what the cause is, but I can't fix it with Yast and also keep root's mail being sent to me (I have a laptop and am the only user on my system). The first screen in Yast->Mail Transfer Agent gives three options: 1)permanent 2)dial up 3)no connection. I tried removing the smtp and pop entries in - 2)dial up - but any data I delete and leave blank leads to an error message and I can not move on to the next screen and to finish. 3) - does not give me any option for root's mail. Since I have a dial up then 1) is not an option. I made a link from /var/spool/mail/user to /home/user/.mozilla/~/mypopaccount so the mail appears as a folder in mozilla and I have complete access to the mail. I suspect I have to make a change to some configuration file, perhaps for fetchmail - it's using procmail to fetch and deliver the mail not fetchmail. If preventing fetchmail from getting the mail is easy I'll do it, otherwise I know what is the cause and at least I have a workaround which is not bad. Thanks again. Gustav Degreef.
On Sun, 2004-11-14 at 22:21 +0530, rada and gus wrote: --snip--
David, hanks for your really fast reply. Looks like you're right in what the cause is, but I can't fix it with Yast and also keep root's mail being sent to me (I have a laptop and am the only user on my system). The first screen in Yast->Mail Transfer Agent gives three options: 1)permanent 2)dial up 3)no connection. I tried removing the smtp and pop entries in - 2)dial up - but any data I delete and leave blank leads to an error message and I can not move on to the next screen and to finish. 3) - does not give me any option for root's mail. Since I have a dial up then 1) is not an option.
I made a link from /var/spool/mail/user to /home/user/.mozilla/~/mypopaccount so the mail appears as a folder in mozilla and I have complete access to the mail.
I suspect I have to make a change to some configuration file, perhaps for fetchmail - it's using procmail to fetch and deliver the mail not fetchmail.
If preventing fetchmail from getting the mail is easy I'll do it, otherwise I know what is the cause and at least I have a workaround which is not bad. Thanks again. Gustav Degreef.
Open YaST > Network Services > Mail Transfer Agent. The first window is "General Settings" - select dialup. If you're only going to use this for internal mail, you won't need virus-scanning. The next window is "Outgoing Mail" - leave everything blank. Next is "Incoming Mail" - "accept remote smtp connections" should be unticked. Leave server, protocol, remote user name, password, local user, blank. If something is filled in, select "details" and you will see an account that you can delete. It should all be blank. Fill in the appropriate user for "forward root's mail to xxxxx" and select "procmail" for delivery mode. Check in "aliases" that the destination for root is your user. Finish. I have 9.1 and have just done all that with no errors, so it should be OK. Regarding mozilla mail, making a link to your mail directory won't work, I don't think. You will be able to read the messages, but it will not delete old ones. The last time I used mozilla mail, it didn't support reading from /var/spool/mail, but things may have changed now - one solution may be to set up a movemail account. Have a look at the mozilla documentation for advice on this - or consider using another client. Thunderbird, for example, is based on mozilla mail, and does support movemail accounts. Hope that gets it sorted. If not - let us know and I'm sure someone will have a solution. David -- "Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance" -Sam Brown
On Sun, 2004-11-14 at 23:56, David Robertson wrote:
On Sun, 2004-11-14 at 22:21 +0530, rada and gus wrote:
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David, hanks for your really fast reply. Looks like you're right in what the cause is, but I can't fix it with Yast and also keep root's mail being sent to me (I have a laptop and am the only user on my system). The first screen in Yast->Mail Transfer Agent gives three options: 1)permanent 2)dial up 3)no connection. I tried removing the smtp and pop entries in - 2)dial up - but any data I delete and leave blank leads to an error message and I can not move on to the next screen and to finish. 3) - does not give me any option for root's mail. Since I have a dial up then 1) is not an option.
I made a link from /var/spool/mail/user to /home/user/.mozilla/~/mypopaccount so the mail appears as a folder in mozilla and I have complete access to the mail.
I suspect I have to make a change to some configuration file, perhaps for fetchmail - it's using procmail to fetch and deliver the mail not fetchmail.
If preventing fetchmail from getting the mail is easy I'll do it, otherwise I know what is the cause and at least I have a workaround which is not bad. Thanks again. Gustav Degreef.
Open YaST > Network Services > Mail Transfer Agent. The first window is "General Settings" - select dialup. If you're only going to use this for internal mail, you won't need virus-scanning. The next window is "Outgoing Mail" - leave everything blank. Next is "Incoming Mail" - "accept remote smtp connections" should be unticked. Leave server, protocol, remote user name, password, local user, blank. If something is filled in, select "details" and you will see an account that you can delete. It should all be blank. Fill in the appropriate user for "forward root's mail to xxxxx" and select "procmail" for delivery mode. Check in "aliases" that the destination for root is your user. Finish.
I have 9.1 and have just done all that with no errors, so it should be OK.
Regarding mozilla mail, making a link to your mail directory won't work, I don't think. You will be able to read the messages, but it will not delete old ones. The last time I used mozilla mail, it didn't support reading from /var/spool/mail, but things may have changed now - one solution may be to set up a movemail account. Have a look at the mozilla documentation for advice on this - or consider using another client. Thunderbird, for example, is based on mozilla mail, and does support movemail accounts
Thanks a lot but I tried deleting the info in the outgoing mail screen and when I press next it still gives an error message saying in essence that I have to supply a valid IP address. You are right the link to the mozilla folders does not allow for the deletion of the mail in /var/spool/mail/user but I can see the mail in mozilla and copy the messages to another box. Essentially good enough since the volume of mail to root and to me is low. I am very eagerly awaiting for my copy of 9.2 which I will install on this laptop (compaq presario 2800) so I won't spend time on this unless there is a really easy solution. Your explanation helped me get a handle on the issue. Thanks. Gustav
On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 12:34 +0530, rada and gus wrote: --snip--
I won't spend time on this unless there is a really easy solution. --snip
rm /etc/fetchmailrc #(will remove the incoming mail accounts from fetchmail) or rpm -e fetchmail if all else fails.........! David -- "Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance" -Sam Brown
On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 14:12, David Robertson wrote:
On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 12:34 +0530, rada and gus wrote:
--snip--
I won't spend time on this unless there is a really easy solution. --snip
rm /etc/fetchmailrc #(will remove the incoming mail accounts from fetchmail)
or
rpm -e fetchmail
if all else fails.........!
David
Thanks, I'll try it, Gus Degreef.
The Sunday 2004-11-14 at 22:21 +0530, rada and gus wrote:
David, hanks for your really fast reply. Looks like you're right in what the cause is, but I can't fix it with Yast and also keep root's mail being sent to me (I have a laptop and am the only user on my system). The first screen in Yast->Mail Transfer Agent gives three options: 1)permanent 2)dial up 3)no connection. I tried removing the smtp and pop entries in - 2)dial up - but any data I delete and leave blank leads to an error message and I can not move on to the next screen and to finish. 3) - does not give me any option for root's mail. Since I have a dial up then 1) is not an option.
As a matter of fact, it is. I use dial-up, but nevertheless, I used option 1, permanent connection. I have done that for years. Why? because otherwise, the smtp server is not permanently up, and local email some times doesn't get sent. The trick is that I use the script ip-up.local to remind postfix or sendmail to send email when the connection goes up. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On Sun, 2004-11-21 at 08:02, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Sunday 2004-11-14 at 22:21 +0530, rada and gus wrote:
David, hanks for your really fast reply. Looks like you're right in what the cause is, but I can't fix it with Yast and also keep root's mail being sent to me (I have a laptop and am the only user on my system). The first screen in Yast->Mail Transfer Agent gives three options: 1)permanent 2)dial up 3)no connection. I tried removing the smtp and pop entries in - 2)dial up - but any data I delete and leave blank leads to an error message and I can not move on to the next screen and to finish. 3) - does not give me any option for root's mail. Since I have a dial up then 1) is not an option.
As a matter of fact, it is. I use dial-up, but nevertheless, I used option 1, permanent connection.
I have done that for years. Why? because otherwise, the smtp server is not permanently up, and local email some times doesn't get sent. The trick is that I use the script ip-up.local to remind postfix or sendmail to send email when the connection goes up.
It continues to amaze me how configurable and flexible linux is. Nice tip. Thanks. Gus.
On Sun, 2004-11-14 at 09:09, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
To have root's mail sent to you, edit /etc/aliases to have root's mail forwarded to you. (but I do not know where to do it in YaST2)
yast2>Network Services>Mail Transfer Agent>Next>Next>Forward root's mail to
I've been following this thread and noticed that I have a funny problem relating to receiving root's mail. I set this up on install, but somehow never got around to seeing root's mail till I read the thread. I now noticed that I received root's mail in /var/spool/mail/"my user name". In that file are included 19 messages mostly to root, but also 6 messages to my regular e-mail address! This address is a pop account from which I download (using mozilla) via my local ISP. The pop server is in the US and I am in India. How could these six messages wind up in /var/spool/mail/my user ? Ordinarily my mail goes directly into my inbox in mozilla (folders which are in /home/myuser/.mozilla/~ . I am using Suse pro 9.1 with the packages from the CD's and some YOU updates. I have not otherwise changed any other packages. This is really odd. Any ideas? Thanks, Gus Degreef.
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Carlos E. R.
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David Robertson
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Joe Morris (NTM)
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Mitja
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mitja
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Patrick Shanahan
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Paul Cartwright
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rada and gus