[opensuse] Where is asterisk???`
Correction, that should be locate, not locatedb. I've tried installing asterisk180, on OpenSUSE 11.3, using the 1-Click Install on software.opensuse.org/search. It appears to go through the installation process and even shows as being installed in the software manager, but I can't seem to find it anywhere on the disk. I've used both find and locatedb to search for some of the files that should have been installed. Any idea what's happened? tnx jk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/12/2010 15:03, James Knott wrote:
Correction, that should be locate, not locatedb.
I've tried installing asterisk180, on OpenSUSE 11.3, using the 1-Click Install on software.opensuse.org/search. It appears to go through the installation process and even shows as being installed in the software manager, but I can't seem to find it anywhere on the disk. I've used both find and locatedb to search for some of the files that should have been installed. Any idea what's happened?
tnx jk
No, but I can offer a couple of suggestions. The first is, did you reboot? Often an app appears in the menu only after a reboot. Second, what shows up in the list of files for this app in the file manager? I mean, it should show you where all the files were installed. BC -- Attorney: Can you describe the individual? Witness: He was about medium height and had a beard. Attorney: And was it a male or a female? Witness: Unless the circus was in town I'm going with male. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 12/10/2010 12:29 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
The first is, did you reboot? Often an app appears in the menu only after a reboot.
I think you may have meant, logout/login. But, I've never seen the need to do that either. I've not encounter a situation where an application, proper installed, didn't show up in the "Application Launcher Menu". -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 12/09/2010 09:22 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 12/10/2010 12:29 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
The first is, did you reboot? Often an app appears in the menu only after a reboot.
I think you may have meant, logout/login.
But, I've never seen the need to do that either. I've not encounter a situation where an application, proper installed, didn't show up in the "Application Launcher Menu".
look and see if you have /etc/asterisk That's where the configuration files live. Asterisk is sort of like apache. It's a SIP server, you can't see it run. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/12/2010 16:22, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 12/10/2010 12:29 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
The first is, did you reboot? Often an app appears in the menu only after a reboot. I think you may have meant, logout/login.
No, I meant "reboot".
But, I've never seen the need to do that either. I've not encounter a situation where an application, proper installed, didn't show up in the "Application Launcher Menu".
Then "You haven't really experienced life as it really is!" :-) Most of the time what you state is correct but there have been many times when this did not/does not hold. Only last week I installed an app (cannot remember now which one it was) which did not show up anywhere; I had the exact same situation as James. It only showed up when I *rebooted* - and I mean rebooted. I think it all has to do with the fact that Linux keeps apps/config files in RAM when they are running and simply changing users (logout/login) does not clear what is retained in RAM. BC -- Attorney: Can you describe the individual? Witness: He was about medium height and had a beard. Attorney: And was it a male or a female? Witness: Unless the circus was in town I'm going with male. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 12/10/2010 02:55 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 10/12/2010 16:22, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 12/10/2010 12:29 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
The first is, did you reboot? Often an app appears in the menu only after a reboot. I think you may have meant, logout/login.
No, I meant "reboot".
I see.... An MS Windows holdover.... :-)
But, I've never seen the need to do that either. I've not encounter a situation where an application, proper installed, didn't show up in the "Application Launcher Menu".
Then "You haven't really experienced life as it really is!" :-)
Probably not. I've only been doing this for 20 years... :-)
Most of the time what you state is correct but there have been many times when this did not/does not hold.
Only last week I installed an app (cannot remember now which one it was) which did not show up anywhere; I had the exact same situation as James. It only showed up when I *rebooted* - and I mean rebooted.
You only did it last week...and you can't remember? And there are many times...but you can't name one?
I think it all has to do with the fact that Linux keeps apps/config files in RAM when they are running and simply changing users (logout/login) does not clear what is retained in RAM.
Sorry, without your giving concrete evidence I will go with my personal experience. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/12/2010 18:19, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 12/10/2010 02:55 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: [pruned]
Only last week I installed an app (cannot remember now which one it was) which did not show up anywhere; I had the exact same situation as James. It only showed up when I *rebooted* - and I mean rebooted. You only did it last week...and you can't remember? And there are many times...but you can't name one?
No, I cannot remember. I fool around with Fedora, Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Knoppix, openSUSE, Ultimate Edition, PCLinux..... You have a problem with me not remembering which which app it was?
I think it all has to do with the fact that Linux keeps apps/config files in RAM when they are running and simply changing users (logout/login) does not clear what is retained in RAM.
Sorry, without your giving concrete evidence I will go with my personal experience.
Go with whatever you want....I really don't give a tinker's cuss :-) . BC -- The calendar's days are numbered! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ed Greshko wrote:
"Application Launcher Menu" The system I installed it on is my firewall, which doesn't have a "desktop". I normally use ssh or X from another system to work on it.
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On Thursday, December 09, 2010 22:29 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 10/12/2010 15:03, James Knott wrote:
Correction, that should be locate, not locatedb.
I've tried installing asterisk180, on OpenSUSE 11.3, using the 1-Click Install on software.opensuse.org/search. It appears to go through the installation process and even shows as being installed in the software manager, but I can't seem to find it anywhere on the disk. I've used both find and locatedb to search for some of the files that should have been installed. Any idea what's happened?
tnx jk
The first is, did you reboot? Often an app appears in the menu only after a reboot.
Ugh...I hope this kludge doesn't become a standard answer, as then it will be proof that Linux has declined to MS's level of doing anything and we all might as well just switch over to it. To the OP - I've also noticed that sometimes certain apps don't show up on the menu after installation. Usually I get to the menu editor and can add it as needed, but since you can't find it even on your system I don't know what else to offer to help except try maybe opening YAST and typing in the app's name in the 'search' tab and see if YAST sees it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Insomniac wrote:
but since you can't find it even on your system I don't know what else to offer to help except try maybe opening YAST and typing in the app's name in the 'search' tab and see if YAST sees it. I did and it showed it as installed. However, deleting and reinstall worked, so it's now there. Now comes the "fun" part, figuring out how to get it to work.
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On 10/12/2010 20:57, Insomniac wrote:
On 10/12/2010 15:03, James Knott wrote:
Correction, that should be locate, not locatedb.
I've tried installing asterisk180, on OpenSUSE 11.3, using the 1-Click Install on software.opensuse.org/search. It appears to go through the installation process and even shows as being installed in the software manager, but I can't seem to find it anywhere on the disk. I've used both find and locatedb to search for some of the files that should have been installed. Any idea what's happened?
tnx jk
The first is, did you reboot? Often an app appears in the menu only after a reboot. Ugh...I hope this kludge doesn't become a standard answer, as then it will be
On Thursday, December 09, 2010 22:29 Basil Chupin wrote: proof that Linux has declined to MS's level of doing anything and we all might as well just switch over to it.
Well, I have heard this claim that there is no need to reboot a Linux distro after updates/upgrades. However, have you not got the message after some updates/upgrades which 'tell' you that you need to reboot your system for the changes to come into effect? No? In which case you haven't been watching the screen or simply ignoring the message knowing that the next time when you boot up your system it is equivalent to doing an 'immediate' reboot. (To save time and effort in arguing this point, what is the message you get when the system's kernel has been upgraded to a newer version? Your newly upgraded and now installed kernel somehow, magically, takes over and starts running your system, right? Or do you get the message that you need to reboot for the changes to become effective? And if you now state, "Ah, but this different!", well it is not a different situation. Linux distros have to be rebooted on certain occasions for the changes to come into effect.) BC -- The calendar's days are numbered! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Basil Chupin wrote:
However, have you not got the message after some updates/upgrades which 'tell' you that you need to reboot your system for the changes to come into effect?
I have only seen that for kernel upgrades. Nothing else. At most, it's necessary to restart a service. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday, December 11, 2010 02:43 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 10/12/2010 20:57, Insomniac wrote:
On Thursday, December 09, 2010 22:29 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 10/12/2010 15:03, James Knott wrote:
Correction, that should be locate, not locatedb.
I've tried installing asterisk180, on OpenSUSE 11.3, using the 1-Click Install on software.opensuse.org/search. It appears to go through the installation process and even shows as being installed in the software manager, but I can't seem to find it anywhere on the disk. I've used both find and locatedb to search for some of the files that should have been installed. Any idea what's happened?
tnx jk
The first is, did you reboot? Often an app appears in the menu only after a reboot.
Ugh...I hope this kludge doesn't become a standard answer, as then it will be
proof that Linux has declined to MS's level of doing anything and we all might as well just switch over to it.
Well, I have heard this claim that there is no need to reboot a Linux distro after updates/upgrades.
However, have you not got the message after some updates/upgrades which 'tell' you that you need to reboot your system for the changes to come into effect?
Yes, for a kernel upgrade *ONLY*. Since I don't upgrade the kernels on my boxen, I don't ever reboot when I install new *anything*, and no, I do not miss or ignore any messages. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Basil Chupin wrote:
On 10/12/2010 15:03, James Knott wrote:
Correction, that should be locate, not locatedb.
I've tried installing asterisk180, on OpenSUSE 11.3, using the 1-Click Install on software.opensuse.org/search. It appears to go through the installation process and even shows as being installed in the software manager, but I can't seem to find it anywhere on the disk. I've used both find and locatedb to search for some of the files that should have been installed. Any idea what's happened?
tnx jk
No, but I can offer a couple of suggestions.
The first is, did you reboot? Often an app appears in the menu only after a reboot.
Second, what shows up in the list of files for this app in the file manager? I mean, it should show you where all the files were installed.
BC
Other than kernel updates, since when does any software install require a reboot? According to the package file list, there is supposed to be an /etc/asterisk subdirectory. I don't see one. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
Correction, that should be locate, not locatedb.
I've tried installing asterisk180, on OpenSUSE 11.3, using the 1-Click Install on software.opensuse.org/search. It appears to go through the installation process and even shows as being installed in the software manager, but I can't seem to find it anywhere on the disk. I've used both find and locatedb to search for some of the files that should have been installed. Any idea what's happened?
Maybe check yast or zypper logs - or 'rpm -qa | grep asterisk' -- Per Jessen, Zürich (0.0°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
Maybe check yast or zypper logs - or 'rpm -qa | grep asterisk'
As I mentioned, Yast software manager thinks it was installed.
But what do the logs say? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dave Howorth wrote:
James Knott wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
Maybe check yast or zypper logs - or 'rpm -qa | grep asterisk'
As I mentioned, Yast software manager thinks it was installed.
But what do the logs say?
Exactly. I would expect the binary to be /usr/sbin/asterisk, but the RPM might just have another opinion (I install asterisk from source). What does 'which asterisk' say (as root) ? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (1.0°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
What does 'which asterisk' say (as root) ?
That didn't find it either.
Something obviously went wrong, if there is no indication in any of the logs, maybe just do a reinstall. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (1.2°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
maybe just do a reinstall I did and it worked.
Talk to you soon then :-) Asterisk is an amazing piece of software, we've been running all our telephones + fax + VoIP over asterisk for over two years. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (1.6°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
James Knott wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
maybe just do a reinstall
I did and it worked.
Talk to you soon then :-) Asterisk is an amazing piece of software, we've been running all our telephones + fax + VoIP over asterisk for over two years.
First, I'll have to figure out how to configure it. I'm not planning on setting up a full PBX. I bought a Cisco SPA 3102 so that I could use my Nexus One as an extension to my home phone. However, that device needs something like Asterisk to register the phone. However, at the moment, there's another issue to resolve. When asterisk starts up, dahdi fails to start. When I try to start it manually, I get the following: firewall:~ # service dahdi start Loading DAHDI hardware modules: wct4xxp: error wcte12xp: error wct1xxp: error wcte11xp: error wctdm24xxp: error wcfxo: error wctdm: error wcb4xxp: error wctc4xxp: error xpp_usb: error Error: missing /dev/dahdi! I have VoIP experience with the TalkSwitch VoIP PBX, but this is my first attempt at Asterisk. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
First, I'll have to figure out how to configure it. I'm not planning on setting up a full PBX. I bought a Cisco SPA 3102 so that I could use my Nexus One as an extension to my home phone. However, that device needs something like Asterisk to register the phone.
Yes, it needs a SIP provider. I've got one of those SPA3102s too in our conference-room, I think because we couldn't get or didn't have an ISDN conference telephone.
However, at the moment, there's another issue to resolve. When asterisk starts up, dahdi fails to start. When I try to start it manually, I get the following:
firewall:~ # service dahdi start Loading DAHDI hardware modules: wct4xxp: error wcte12xp: error wct1xxp: error wcte11xp: error wctdm24xxp: error wcfxo: error wctdm: error wcb4xxp: error wctc4xxp: error xpp_usb: error Error: missing /dev/dahdi!
Sorry, can't help you much with that, I've never used zaptel/dahdi, we're pure ISDN+VoIP and still on asterisk 1.4. Sounds like some module didn't load correctly though? What do you need zaptel/dahdi for? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (1.4°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
What do you need zaptel/dahdi for?
I'm not sure, as it was installed along with the rest of the package. Also, the info on the Asterisk site about getting started says to verify it's running and if not to use the command "service dahdi start".
Yes, it needs a SIP provider. I've got one of those SPA3102s too in our conference-room, I think because we couldn't get or didn't have an ISDN conference telephone.
Any issues with it? As I mentioned, I've never worked with Asterisk before, so it's all new to me. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
What do you need zaptel/dahdi for?
I'm not sure, as it was installed along with the rest of the package. Also, the info on the Asterisk site about getting started says to verify it's running and if not to use the command "service dahdi start".
Unless you've digium telephony (isdn or pots) cards in the box, I don't think you need dahdi. Just a guess though.
Yes, it needs a SIP provider. I've got one of those SPA3102s too in our conference-room, I think because we couldn't get or didn't have an ISDN conference telephone.
Any issues with it? As I mentioned, I've never worked with Asterisk before, so it's all new to me.
No issues at all, it works fine. It's easily configured with the webserver or with tftp. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (3.3°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 21:04 +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
firewall:~ # service dahdi start Loading DAHDI hardware modules: wct4xxp: error wcte12xp: error wct1xxp: error wcte11xp: error wctdm24xxp: error wcfxo: error wctdm: error wcb4xxp: error wctc4xxp: error xpp_usb: error Error: missing /dev/dahdi!
Sorry, can't help you much with that, I've never used zaptel/dahdi, we're pure ISDN+VoIP and still on asterisk 1.4. Sounds like some module didn't load correctly though? What do you need zaptel/dahdi for?
With the older versions, one needed zaptel-dummy for the timing reference clock (just incase one did not have any other digiumboards installed) I presume, that one needs something like dahdi-dummy now ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hans Witvliet wrote:
On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 21:04 +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
firewall:~ # service dahdi start Loading DAHDI hardware modules: wct4xxp: error wcte12xp: error wct1xxp: error wcte11xp: error wctdm24xxp: error wcfxo: error wctdm: error wcb4xxp: error wctc4xxp: error xpp_usb: error Error: missing /dev/dahdi!
Sorry, can't help you much with that, I've never used zaptel/dahdi, we're pure ISDN+VoIP and still on asterisk 1.4. Sounds like some module didn't load correctly though? What do you need zaptel/dahdi for?
With the older versions, one needed zaptel-dummy for the timing reference clock (just incase one did not have any other digiumboards installed)
Maybe it's default? I don't recall ever having to fiddle with zaptel/zapata. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (3.4°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 12:39 AM, James Knott
firewall:~ # service dahdi start Loading DAHDI hardware modules: wct4xxp: error wcte12xp: error wct1xxp: error wcte11xp: error wctdm24xxp: error wcfxo: error wctdm: error wcb4xxp: error wctc4xxp: error xpp_usb: error Error: missing /dev/dahdi!
If you use digium card you need this one. If you're not use digium card I think you don't need dahdi. I use asterisk 1.4 and 1.6 in several servers for voip and also connecting it to traditional pstn line. It's a wonderful software :-) -- medwinz http://medwinz.blogsome.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
medwinz wrote:
If you use digium card you need this one. No, I'm not using that card. I'll be using a Cisco SPA3120 voice gateway. Sorry, that should be SPA3102.
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James Knott wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
What does 'which asterisk' say (as root) ? That didn't find it either.
I have used Yast to remove and reinstall. Now I have /etc/asterisk. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 11:31 -0500, James Knott wrote:
James Knott wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
What does 'which asterisk' say (as root) ? That didn't find it either.
I have used Yast to remove and reinstall. Now I have /etc/asterisk.
By the way, did you also get the sysconfig file: /etc/sysconfig/asterisk180 ? The init script in etc/rc.d needs a number of ENV's, like: "VERBOSITY", that should have been defined in the (for me) missing config-file... HW -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hans Witvliet wrote:
By the way, did you also get the sysconfig file: /etc/sysconfig/asterisk180 ?
The init script in etc/rc.d needs a number of ENV's, like: "VERBOSITY", that should have been defined in the (for me) missing config-file...
/etc/sysconfig/asterisk180: No such file or directory As I mentioned, I have a lot to learn about Asterisk. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 18:26 -0500, James Knott wrote:
Hans Witvliet wrote:
By the way, did you also get the sysconfig file: /etc/sysconfig/asterisk180 ?
The init script in etc/rc.d needs a number of ENV's, like: "VERBOSITY", that should have been defined in the (for me) missing config-file...
/etc/sysconfig/asterisk180: No such file or directory
As I mentioned, I have a lot to learn about Asterisk. Me too, again, but the 1.8.x version has very much nice features
I just created myself: cat /etc/sysconfig/asterisk180 ## Path: Network/asterisk180 ## Description: VOIP server settings ## Type: string ## Default: "" ## ServiceRestart: asterisk180 # # Options for asterisk180 # VERBOSITY="5" Perhaps/probably there are also other items missing [perhaps the file can be included with the the 1.8.1 version that got released last week *hint* ] The good thing about the sysconfig-file, is that you can manipulate it with yast, and preconfigure it with autoyast! hw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dave Howorth wrote:
But what do the logs say?
In "config_diff_2010_12_09.log", I find: Changed configuration files for asterisk180-1.8.0-88.1.i586.rpm: rpm created /etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf as /etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf.rpmnew. Here are the first 25 lines of difference: --- /etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf 2010-12-08 11:58:16.011318792 -0500 +++ /etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf.rpmnew 2010-11-03 10:33:36.000000000 -0400 @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ -[directories](!) ; remove the (!) to enable this +[directories](!) astetcdir => /etc/asterisk astmoddir => /usr/lib/asterisk/modules astvarlibdir => /var/lib/asterisk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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