Andre Truter wrote:

On 11/13/05, Jan Karjalainen wrote:

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With the recent hoopla about Novell´s strategy about including KDE in SUSE or not, I feel compelled to write about my observations. I read the mailing lists with amusement at first, noticing panic amongst some SUSE users. "I´m swithing to Kubuntu/Fedora/whatever"... Then I realized, these people were seriuos!? I´ve never seen people more eager to jump ship, ever... [..]

Terry Goodkind sums it up nicely in his books:

"People will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true."

And I think this is very true, especially the second part "fear to be true"

I fear that's true. ;-)

On 11/13/05, Steven T. Hatton wrote:

On Sunday 13 November 2005 02:26 pm, Jan Karjalainen wrote:

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With the recent hoopla about Novell´s strategy about including KDE in SUSE or not,

Still don't get it eh?

After a 100+ email thread.. no he doesn't. It's much like this thread on CNET about MS removing Sony's rootkit... people were saying MS was the goodguy in all this... they did it for self-serving purposes.. not because they're a "good guy". It's all about money.. same with Novell. But Novell doesn't get it... and neither do the n00bs.. they just attack us old timers and call us crazy because this behavior by Novell is nothing new. -Ben -- Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

On Sunday 13 November 2005 06:28 pm, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

David SMITH wrote:

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I think you also have to remember that you have a self-selecting set - you'll hear from all the people who are sufficiently upset by the decision (including all the ones who will rant endlessly), but you won't hear from the people who don't care.

Your forgetting the largest group, those who do not care- to get involved in those types of threads.

Don't look now, but... Steven

On Monday 14 November 2005 03:31 am, Peter Onion wrote:

Or those of us who actually prefer to run GNOME on SuSE.

So you do care about this issue? ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mantel/kernel-of-the-day/

You're expecting people to be rational? What's the weather like on your planet?

I realized long ago that if you get a randomly chosen group of 100 people together and tell them a rumor (make certain that you tell them that it's a rumor - repeat the disclaimer a few times if you like) - 99 of them will believe it. Of that 99, 45 of them will be in favor, 45 will be against, 8 will be undecided, and 1 will think that it's a government conspiracy.

If the 100th person suggests waiting for further information or suggests trying to confirm it, the other 99 will immediately attack.

Personally, I'm frequently embarrassed to be a human. If there is intelligent life in the universe, it's not here.

Mike-

There's a rumour - tell us what! When? Where? Who's got mad cow disease? Kent Brockman (to interviewee about crisis): "So would you say it's time to panic? Time to crack open each other's heads, and feast on the goo inside?" Interviewee: "Why yes I would, Kent" - half-remembered Simpsons episode Fergus

On Mon, Nov 14, 2005 at 08:13:08AM -0500, Michael W Cocke wrote:

On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 20:26:39 +0100, you wrote:

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I hope these people don´t have any important positions in the community, because I´d hate to rely on people who jump to conclusions without having any hard facts to rely on. I myself have worked as a project manager and a system developer amongst other things, and I have to say that keeping your head cool and being willing to research claims/news/"so called facts" saves your day!

Just my $0.02 of worth...

You're expecting people to be rational? What's the weather like on your planet?

I realized long ago that if you get a randomly chosen group of 100 people together and tell them a rumor (make certain that you tell them that it's a rumor - repeat the disclaimer a few times if you like) - 99 of them will believe it. Of that 99, 45 of them will be in favor, 45 will be against, 8 will be undecided, and 1 will think that it's a government conspiracy.

If the 100th person suggests waiting for further information or suggests trying to confirm it, the other 99 will immediately attack.

Personally, I'm frequently embarrassed to be a human. If there is intelligent life in the universe, it's not here.

Be careful I said that and some guy took huge offense to it and started flaming the crap out of me for saying pretty much what you just said. And he "worked for SUSE so he knows waaaaaay better than me". *Sigh*.

Mike-

-Allen

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