Online banking and linux browsers
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services? Thanks, Jerome
Jerome, On Tuesday 11 January 2005 19:04, Susemail wrote:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services?
I'm not up on the intricacies of on-line banking, but I know that Opera will masquerade as other browsers, and that's usually enough to get these lame-ass sites to play along. To switch which browser Opera identifies itself as, open the Preferences dialog and select the Network category. Choose the browser you want Opera to emulate (MSIE 6.0, in this case) from the "Browser identification" pop-up.
Thanks, Jerome
Randall Schulz
On Tuesday 11 January 2005 17:17, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Jerome,
On Tuesday 11 January 2005 19:04, Susemail wrote:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services?
I'm not up on the intricacies of on-line banking, but I know that Opera will masquerade as other browsers, and that's usually enough to get these lame-ass sites to play along.
To switch which browser Opera identifies itself as, open the Preferences dialog and select the Network category. Choose the browser you want Opera to emulate (MSIE 6.0, in this case) from the "Browser identification" pop-up.
Thanks, Jerome
Randall Schulz
Randell, Opera is set to emulate MSIE 6.0 and it gets closest to being able to use the server. There are three or four layers and Opera gets to the last one but not past it. Jerome
Jerome, On Wednesday 12 January 2005 12:28, Susemail wrote:
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Randell,
It's "Randall."
Opera is set to emulate MSIE 6.0 and it gets closest to being able to use the server. There are three or four layers and Opera gets to the last one but not past it.
Yes, of course sometimes those sites really do use IE-only features, and in such cases you're stuck. CrossOver Office runs IE...
Jerome
Randall Schulz
Susemail wrote:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services? Thanks, Jerome
It's hard to answer that. You could try firefox and have it identify itself as IE. Some sites are written to be IE specific and Linux browsers just won't work. Jim
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Susemail wrote:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services? Thanks, Jerome
It's hard to answer that. You could try firefox and have it identify itself as IE. Some sites are written to be IE specific and Linux browsers just won't work.
Jim
I have had the same problem with my bank and with my previous health insurer. Neither site worked with Konqi or Mozilla. Their tech support told me I had to use IE. When I told them I don't have Windows or IE on my system they said that I was out of luck. ;o( I tried to change the way Konqi identified itself (configure Konqi settings), but no matter what I tried nothing worked. Very disappointing. Hoping someone has an answer. Gil
On Tuesday 11 January 2005 16:41, Gil Weber wrote:
I have had the same problem with my bank and with my previous health insurer. Neither site worked with Konqi or Mozilla. Their tech support told me I had to use IE. When I told them I don't have Windows or IE on my system they said that I was out of luck. ;o(
I tried to change the way Konqi identified itself (configure Konqi settings), but no matter what I tried nothing worked. Very disappointing. Hoping someone has an answer.
Gil, I disagree with you. *you* are not the one out of luck but they are. Changer if possible and let them know. It happened to me and I changed banks, AAMOF because of that most of the island here is now with that bank! -- Greetings from /bill at 169 west , 19 south. Disclaimer: Any errors in spelling, tact, or fact are transmission errors."
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Susemail wrote:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services? Thanks, Jerome
It's hard to answer that. You could try firefox and have it identify itself as IE. Some sites are written to be IE specific and Linux browsers just won't work.
Jim
Jim, I must be overlooking a configuration screen somewhere. How do I configure Firefox to identify itself as IE? Thx Gil
Gil Weber wrote:
Jim, I must be overlooking a configuration screen somewhere. How do I configure Firefox to identify itself as IE?
about:config in your urlbar will let you do it manually, or use http://uabar.mozdev.org/ Changing your UA is far from a guarantee of success. Plus, spoofing will provide misleading page hit statistics that prevent the host site operators from knowing who they get their visits from. -- "The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved, it is the power of God." 1 Corinthians 1:18 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/
about:config in your urlbar will let you do it manually, or use more descriptive than any other answer so far but not enough. I did
Felix Miata wrote: that and get a very large list of items. It is going to take a long time to read through all that to find the right item. Which is the item there that I need to tweak?
http://uabar.mozdev.org/ dead end? Clicking where it says "Simply click here" is a bad link
Damon Register
ok I have justinstalled suse 9.1, I had 9.0 and it was fine. Some questions. 1. why does yast in 9.1 does not have any option for automatically start servers. on 9.0 there was an option which could be used to configure how you wanted the servers to start, I used to use that to start automatically mysql, zope, http etc, this yast does not have that option. 2. is there any public fto site that I can use in order to install new programs? I installed suse over the network (my private one), so now that I do not have the local server I can not install new packages. for that server, if exists, which would be the user name and passw? and the path? cheers.
On Wednesday 12 January 2005 17:16, a.garcia@imb.uq.edu.au wrote:
ok I have justinstalled suse 9.1, I had 9.0 and it was fine. Some questions.
1. why does yast in 9.1 does not have any option for automatically start servers. on 9.0 there was an option which could be used to configure how you wanted the servers to start, I used to use that to start automatically mysql, zope, http etc, this yast does not have that option.
Yes it does.. Yast/ runlevel editor is where you want to go.
2. is there any public fto site that I can use in order to install new programs? I installed suse over the network (my private one), so now that I do not have the local server I can not install new packages. for that server, if exists, which would be the user name and passw? and the path? cheers.
ftp.suse.com or one of the numerous mirrors would be a good place to start. Anonymous logins usually work. -- Powered by SuSE 9.2 Kernel 2.6.8 KDE 3.3.0 Kmail 1.7.1 For Mondo/Mindi backup support go to http://www.mikenjane.net/~mike 6:44pm up 8 days 10:48, 5 users, load average: 2.21, 2.75, 3.14
The Thursday 2005-01-13 at 02:16 +1000, a.garcia@imb.uq.edu.au wrote: 1) Correct your date, you live one day ahead. 2) Don't hijack threads.
1. why does yast in 9.1 does not have any option for automatically start servers. on 9.0 there was an option which could be used to configure how you wanted the servers to start, I used to use that to start automatically mysql, zope, http etc, this yast does not have that option.
It does, look carefully. System --> Runlevel Editor.
2. is there any public fto site that I can use in order to install new programs? I installed suse over the network (my private one), so now that I do not have the local server I can not install new packages. for that server, if exists, which would be the user name and passw? and the path? cheers.
YOU will get the security patches you need from a list of servers. Those same servers can be used as well to install packages with yast. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Damon Register wrote:
Felix Miata wrote:
about:config in your urlbar will let you do it manually, or use
more descriptive than any other answer so far but not enough. I did that and get a very large list of items. It is going to take a long time to read through all that to find the right item. Which is the item there that I need to tweak?
Filter on general.useragent.override which probably doesn't exist. You'll have to add it. http://www.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html way down the page shows an example override string and another way of setting it. See also: http://www.mozillazine.org/misc/about:config/ http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/faq http://www.mozilla.org/catalog/end-user/customizing/briefprefs.html
http://uabar.mozdev.org/ dead end? Clicking where it says "Simply click here" is a bad link
Wrong link. :-p http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/useragentswitcher -- "The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved, it is the power of God." 1 Corinthians 1:18 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/
On Tuesday 11 January 2005 17:18, Jim Sabatke wrote:
Susemail wrote:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services? Thanks, Jerome
It's hard to answer that. You could try firefox and have it identify itself as IE. Some sites are written to be IE specific and Linux browsers just won't work.
Jim There doesn't seem to be a way to do that with Firefox. Jerome
FWIW sites that don't render right in firefox (flash and stuff) seem to with konqueror. Secure sites that don't accept firefox seem to with mozilla. That's my routine anyway. B-) On Wednesday 12 January 2005 01:34 pm, Susemail wrote:
On Tuesday 11 January 2005 17:18, Jim Sabatke wrote:
Susemail wrote:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services? Thanks, Jerome
It's hard to answer that. You could try firefox and have it identify itself as IE. Some sites are written to be IE specific and Linux browsers just won't work.
Jim
There doesn't seem to be a way to do that with Firefox. Jerome
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:34:31 -1000
Susemail
On Tuesday 11 January 2005 17:18, Jim Sabatke wrote:
Susemail wrote:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services? Thanks, Jerome
It's hard to answer that. You could try firefox and have it identify itself as IE. Some sites are written to be IE specific and Linux browsers just won't work.
Jim There doesn't seem to be a way to do that with Firefox. Jerome
-- I use the "User Agent Switcher" extension from the Firefox extensions page - I assume it's still available for >=1.0.
-- evangelinux GNU Evangelist http://matheteuo.org/ http://chaddb.sourceforge.net/ "Free software is like God's love - you can share it with anyone anytime anywhere."
You can also try Konqueror it has an identification
option and you can specify for which site you wish to
use it.
George
--- Don Parris
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:34:31 -1000 Susemail
wrote: On Tuesday 11 January 2005 17:18, Jim Sabatke wrote:
Susemail wrote:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services? Thanks, Jerome
It's hard to answer that. You could try firefox and have it identify itself as IE. Some sites are written to be IE specific and Linux browsers just won't work.
Jim There doesn't seem to be a way to do that with Firefox. Jerome
-- I use the "User Agent Switcher" extension from the Firefox extensions page - I assume it's still available for >=1.0.
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You could also e-mail your bank systems administrator to get it working as it should (it should be compatible at least with the most uses browsers available). I had a similar problem a year ago, I sent an e-mail to my bank and they solved the issue in one or two weeks. Hugo On Friday 14 January 2005 20:02, Don Parris wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:34:31 -1000
Susemail
wrote: On Tuesday 11 January 2005 17:18, Jim Sabatke wrote:
Susemail wrote:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services? Thanks, Jerome
It's hard to answer that. You could try firefox and have it identify itself as IE. Some sites are written to be IE specific and Linux browsers just won't work.
Jim
There doesn't seem to be a way to do that with Firefox. Jerome
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I use the "User Agent Switcher" extension from the Firefox extensions page - I assume it's still available for >=1.0.
-- evangelinux GNU Evangelist http://matheteuo.org/ http://chaddb.sourceforge.net/ "Free software is like God's love - you can share it with anyone anytime anywhere."
On Friday 14 January 2005 09:54, Hugo Costelha wrote:
You could also e-mail your bank systems administrator to get it working as it should (it should be compatible at least with the most uses browsers available). I had a similar problem a year ago, I sent an e-mail to my bank and they solved the issue in one or two weeks.
Hugo
On Friday 14 January 2005 20:02, Don Parris wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:34:31 -1000
Susemail
wrote: On Tuesday 11 January 2005 17:18, Jim Sabatke wrote:
Susemail wrote:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services? Thanks, Jerome
It's hard to answer that. You could try firefox and have it identify itself as IE. Some sites are written to be IE specific and Linux browsers just won't work.
Jim
There doesn't seem to be a way to do that with Firefox. Jerome
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I use the "User Agent Switcher" extension from the Firefox extensions page - I assume it's still available for >=1.0.
-- evangelinux GNU Evangelist http://matheteuo.org/ http://chaddb.sourceforge.net/ "Free software is like God's love - you can share it with anyone anytime anywhere." I've tried changing the identity of Firefox, Konqueror, and Opera to IE with no success. Writing to the bank's system administrator is a good idea. Thanks, Jerome
On Friday 14 January 2005 10:02, Don Parris wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:34:31 -1000
Susemail
wrote: On Tuesday 11 January 2005 17:18, Jim Sabatke wrote:
Susemail wrote:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services? Thanks, Jerome
It's hard to answer that. You could try firefox and have it identify itself as IE. Some sites are written to be IE specific and Linux browsers just won't work.
Jim
There doesn't seem to be a way to do that with Firefox. Jerome
--
I use the "User Agent Switcher" extension from the Firefox extensions page - I assume it's still available for >=1.0.
-- evangelinux GNU Evangelist http://matheteuo.org/ http://chaddb.sourceforge.net/ "Free software is like God's love - you can share it with anyone anytime anywhere."
It is, I'm using it now. Jerome
On Tuesday 11 January 2005 16:04, Susemail wrote:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services? Thanks, Jerome
Find an other bank. :-) -- Greetings from /bill at 169 west , 19 south. Disclaimer: Any errors in spelling, tact, or fact are transmission errors."
On Tuesday 11 January 2005 10:04 pm, Susemail wrote:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services?
Most banks seem to be willing to swallow Firefox or Mozilla, both of which work under Linux. Paul
Paul W. Abrahams wrote:
On Tuesday 11 January 2005 10:04 pm, Susemail wrote:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services?
Most banks seem to be willing to swallow Firefox or Mozilla, both of which work under Linux.
Rather than MOST I would say I LOT. Many ARE now realizing that they need to take care, I've just switched all my business and personal banking because I simply could not work with the business Internet interface of my old bank - yet the personal one worked fine. With the new bank the same problem. TWO different interfaces with different ways of working, but at least both work on Mozilla - why can't we have some standardisation WITHIN suppliers ;) -- Lester Caine ----------------------------- L.S.Caine Electronic Services
On Mon, 2004-04-12 at 04:01, Lester Caine wrote: WOW and I thought snail-mail was slow. Or maybe you need to reset your clock/date. > Paul W. Abrahams wrote: > > > On Tuesday 11 January 2005 10:04 pm, Susemail wrote: > > > >>I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows > >>browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to > >>access my online services? > > > > Most banks seem to be willing to swallow Firefox or Mozilla, both of which > > work under Linux. > > Rather than MOST I would say I LOT. > Many ARE now realizing that they need to take care, I've just switched > all my business and personal banking because I simply could not work > with the business Internet interface of my old bank - yet the personal > one worked fine. With the new bank the same problem. TWO different > interfaces with different ways of working, but at least both work on > Mozilla - why can't we have some standardisation WITHIN suppliers ;) > > -- > Lester Caine > ----------------------------- > L.S.Caine Electronic Services -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989 SuSE since 1998 * Only reply to the list please*
Ken Schneider wrote:
On Mon, 2004-04-12 at 04:01, Lester Caine wrote:
WOW and I thought snail-mail was slow. Or maybe you need to reset your clock/date.
Before I get more off list comments ;) I was playing with a time limited licence key yesterday and forgot to put the clock back. A replacement key is supposed to be on it's way so I can sort out a customers problem, and I can't do any more until it arrives :) -- Lester Caine ----------------------------- L.S.Caine Electronic Services
Paul W. Abrahams wrote:
On Tuesday 11 January 2005 10:04 pm, Susemail wrote:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services?
Most banks seem to be willing to swallow Firefox or Mozilla, both of which work under Linux.
Paul
Some not only look at your browser, they look at your operating system as well and in some cases if you configure your browser say IE6 on W2K, it'll accept it, it still may not display or allow you to input certain fields. When all else fails, I dive in and out quickly using IE under crossover office -- dangerous!, however my bank accepts non-IE browsers. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and Keen Flyer =====ALMOST ALL LINUX USED HERE, Solaris 10 SPARC is just for play=====
The Tuesday 2005-01-11 at 22:30 -0500, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:
Most banks seem to be willing to swallow Firefox or Mozilla, both of which work under Linux.
Others are happier with Netscape 6 o 7, but a few require Netscape 4.x -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On Wed, 2005-01-12 at 13:41, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Tuesday 2005-01-11 at 22:30 -0500, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:
Most banks seem to be willing to swallow Firefox or Mozilla, both of which work under Linux.
Others are happier with Netscape 6 o 7, but a few require Netscape 4.x
It used to be that my Credit Union would complain if you loaded their site with Netscape 6.*, too insecure they said. I'm not sure what they say about IE now. :)
The Wednesday 2005-01-12 at 18:17 -0500, Mike McMullin wrote:
Others are happier with Netscape 6 o 7, but a few require Netscape 4.x
It used to be that my Credit Union would complain if you loaded their site with Netscape 6.*, too insecure they said. I'm not sure what they say about IE now. :)
Mozilla - and thus, Netscape 6 and 7 - had the crypto signing function broken for years; we had to use Netscape 4.7, which was the only browser in Linux that had that needed feature. It was solved early this year, for mozilla, but I don't know if the netscape 7 series has been upgraded with that, haven't tested it. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Susemail wrote:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services?
Many banks require broken browsers to work (ie: IE). See http://tinyurl.com/3vk3g & http://tinyurl.com/522n9 for some of the Gecko Tech Evangelism bugs reported. Switch banks, and tell both why: http://www.eetimes.com/sys/news/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=PYAVPMB2DMIMCQS... -- "The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved, it is the power of God." 1 Corinthians 1:18 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/
El Mar 11 Ene 2005 22:04, Susemail escribió:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services?
Only today I had this happen to me. While a European bank I hold an account with has no problems at all with supporting any browser, my Colombian bank will currently support IE on Windows only. I placed a call with the support helpdesk and wrote a letter to the responsible manager. If they insist in not changing their policy regarding supported technology for online banking, I will consider switching the bank and I will make sure they get to know why.. Regards, -- Andreas Philipp Noema Ltda. Bogotá, D.C. - Colombia http://www.noemasol.com
Andreas Philipp wrote:
El Mar 11 Ene 2005 22:04, Susemail escribió:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services?
Only today I had this happen to me. While a European bank I hold an account with has no problems at all with supporting any browser, my Colombian bank will currently support IE on Windows only.
I placed a call with the support helpdesk and wrote a letter to the responsible manager. If they insist in not changing their policy regarding supported technology for online banking, I will consider switching the bank and I will make sure they get to know why..
And also remind them, that IE is the most unsecure brower available. This means more potential security problems for them. They must *LOVE* those keystroke captures, when someone enters their bank ID and password.
James Knott wrote:
Andreas Philipp wrote:
El Mar 11 Ene 2005 22:04, Susemail escribió:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services?
Only today I had this happen to me. While a European bank I hold an account with has no problems at all with supporting any browser, my Colombian bank will currently support IE on Windows only.
I placed a call with the support helpdesk and wrote a letter to the responsible manager. If they insist in not changing their policy regarding supported technology for online banking, I will consider switching the bank and I will make sure they get to know why..
And also remind them, that IE is the most unsecure brower available. This means more potential security problems for them. They must *LOVE* those keystroke captures, when someone enters their bank ID and password.
They may care very little for security, just up bank charges and they're in the pink again. MS seems to have done quite a snow job on a large section of their customers, if there is a security breach, then someone has brought in something he or she shouldn't have. If someone is known to be running Linux, that person is a prime suspect. If you care to see the sort of drivel they come up with, go on over to http://blogs.msdn.com/ptorr/archive/2004/12/20/327511.aspx, it's entitled "HOW CAN I TRUST FIREFOX?", a "fur coat and no knickers" kind of article. I was quite amazed that he published my comment, they have no shame. Such an article must be reassuring to the intended audience as you never hear of Bill Gates and cohorts being harrangued over security problems and this gives them the gumption to carry on with the utter tummy-rot they get away with, they have perhaps hundreds of thousands more believers than thinkers. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and Keen Flyer =====ALMOST ALL LINUX USED HERE, Solaris 10 SPARC is just for play=====
On Tuesday 11 January 2005 22:04, Susemail wrote:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services? Thanks, Jerome
Try Netscape 7.1 works on two banks for me. -- Bruce Samhaber In transition Tel: 613-724-5987 112 Kenora St. Fax: 613-724-5987 Ottawa, Ontario Cel: 613-297-6961 K1Y 3L1 mailto: bsamhaber@sympatico.ca http://www3.sympatico.ca/marypat/
"Susemail"
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services?
I am using Konqueror 3.1.4 and can now access my banks online, no problem. Under the Konqueror version with SuSE 7.2 I could not. I suppose the reason may be that the older Konqueror (and Mozilla,too) may have been using a less secure encryption method than the bankers now want. Update Konqueror.
Thanks, Jerome
On Wednesday 12 January 2005 06:03, DogWalker wrote:
"Susemail"
said: I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services?
I am using Konqueror 3.1.4 and can now access my banks online, no problem. Under the Konqueror version with SuSE 7.2 I could not. I suppose the reason may be that the older Konqueror (and Mozilla,too) may have been using a less secure encryption method than the bankers now want. Update Konqueror.
Thanks, Jerome
I have problems with one of my banks here in Sweden. My personal bank is OK, but my company one is not Thankfully it works in Firefox. As far as i have been able to find out, its mostly because its IE specific Java applets. The programmers are so lame that they cant write clean code. And as IE itself is happy with broken code (at time REQUIRES broken code) its a-OK with most webarchitects. Not until we get at true crossplatform standard which ALL conform to, we will keep having these problems.. Too many sites are "anti anythingelse than IE" Hotmail for instance. It changed something on their pages, and now o cant get to them neither in Firefox nor Konqueror. It sux! -- /Rikard --------------------------------------------------------------- Rikard Johnels email : rikjoh@norweb.se Web : http://www.rikjoh.com Mob : +46 735 05 51 01 PGP : 0x461CEE56 ---------------------------------------------------------------
Rikard Johnels wrote:
I have problems with one of my banks here in Sweden. My personal bank is OK, but my company one is not Thankfully it works in Firefox. As far as i have been able to find out, its mostly because its IE specific Java applets.
Usually it's IE-specific script. M$ has their own non-standard scripting language that isn't fully compatible with standard ECMAScript (commonly called Javascript).
The programmers are so lame that they cant write clean code. And as IE itself is happy with broken code (at time REQUIRES broken code) its a-OK with most webarchitects.
Not until we get at true crossplatform standard which ALL conform to, we will keep having these problems..
We have crossplatform standards. Those that create their sites with M$ software simply don't know about them, and neither does their software. Or they simply don't care even if they do know. Or they think IE is the standard, though it can't be, since there are no published specs defining any. "Browser makers are no longer the problem. The problem lies with designers and developers chained to the browser-quirk-oriented markup of the 1990s-often because they don't realize it is possible to support current standards while accommodating old browsers." http://webstandards.org/about/history/ http://www.mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/upgrade_2.html Pages can be made to work in all browsers. Making them work in standards-compliant browsers is easy if you aren't using M$ software to create them.
Too many sites are "anti anythingelse than IE" Hotmail for instance. It changed something on their pages, and now o cant get to them neither in Firefox nor Konqueror. It sux!
Hotmail is a M$ company. You expect it to be happy without a M$ browser? -- "The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved, it is the power of God." 1 Corinthians 1:18 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/
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On Wednesday 12 January 2005 06:03, DogWalker wrote:
"Susemail"
said: I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services?
I am using Konqueror 3.1.4 and can now access my banks online, no problem. Under the Konqueror version with SuSE 7.2 I could not. I suppose the reason may be that the older Konqueror (and Mozilla,too) may have been using a less secure encryption method than the bankers now want. Update Konqueror.
Thanks, Jerome
I have problems with one of my banks here in Sweden. My personal bank is OK, but my company one is not Thankfully it works in Firefox. As far as i have been able to find out, its mostly because its IE specific Java applets. The programmers are so lame that they cant write clean code. And as IE itself is happy with broken code (at time REQUIRES broken code) its a-OK with most webarchitects.
Not until we get at true crossplatform standard which ALL conform to, we will keep having these problems..
Too many sites are "anti anythingelse than IE" Hotmail for instance. It changed something on their pages, and now o cant get to them neither in Firefox nor Konqueror. It sux!
Agreed. Another Linux-unfriendly site is eBay. I wanted to sell a camera, so I went to the site and started to set up a description of the item. Midway through the process there is supposed to be a screen where they have an HTML editor so that you can format your listing using such "tweaks" as bold, italics, centering, change the color of the letters, etc. etc. Well, the tabs and buttons for the HTML editor don't show up unless you're using IE. Konqi doesn't work, neither do Mozilla or Firefox. I had several communications with eBay tech support and the answer was always the same -- you have to use IE. Unfortunately I don't know HTML coding to do it manually -- I need that HTML editor. But no luck. They're just a "Windows shop" and seem oblivious to the fact that there are some folks who don't/can't/won't use IE. Oh, well... ;o( Gil
On Tuesday 11 January 2005 19:03, DogWalker wrote:
"Susemail"
said: I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services?
I am using Konqueror 3.1.4 and can now access my banks online, no problem. Under the Konqueror version with SuSE 7.2 I could not. I suppose the reason may be that the older Konqueror (and Mozilla,too) may have been using a less secure encryption method than the bankers now want. Update Konqueror.
Thanks, Jerome I'm running Suse 9.1 and 9.2. How do I tell what version of Konqueror I'm using? Thanks, Jerome
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 22:04, Susemail wrote:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services?
I have used both Opera, and Netscape for on line banking. You will probably need to have Java installed.
On Wednesday 12 January 2005 01:16, Mike McMullin wrote:
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 22:04, Susemail wrote:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services?
I have used both Opera, and Netscape for on line banking. You will probably need to have Java installed.
Java and Javascript is installed and enabled. Jerome
On Tuesday 11 January 2005 10:04 pm, Susemail wrote:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services?
I bank online and Firefox 1.0 works fine for my access. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 X-Request-PGP: http://home.comcast.net/~p.cartwright/wsb/key.asc
Hi all... On Tuesday 11 January 2005 10:04 pm, Susemail wrote:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services?
Personally for € I use the German Postbank. I've never had a problem with it under Linux. In fact, I've never used anything but Linux for it. For US$ I use the Fed. Serv. Credit Union (Credit Union for old soldiers <G>). I've never had a problem using their homepage, but I will admit that its not a full service site. I still have to call or go there to move money. But I can check my accounts. JIM -- Jim Hatridge Linux User #88484 ------------------------------------------------------ WartHog Bulletin Info about new German Stamps http://www.fuzzybunnymilitia.org/~hatridge/bulletin/index.php Viel Feind -- Viel Ehr' Anti-US Propaganda stamp collection http://www.fuzzybunnymilitia.org/~hatridge/collection/index.php
Susemail wrote:
I have online banking and I'm only able to access services with a Windows browser. How can I use Konqueror or Opera or lynx or any linux browser to access my online services? Thanks,
I use Mozilla for banking. Works fine.
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Andreas Philipp
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Brad Bourn
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DogWalker
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