Re: [opensuse] copy/mv in MC

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Felix Miata

19 May 2011 19 May '11

16:11

On 2011/05/19 11:38 (GMT-0400) Larry Stotler composed:

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Felix Miata wrote:

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=400552 ... On more than one system? Using which video chip(s)? With what output from /proc/cmdline?

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Desktop/Server: root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_WDC_WD360ADFD-0_WD-WMANT1012447-part2 splash=silent

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uname -a :Linux Server 2.6.25.20-0.7-default #1 SMP 2010-02-26 20:32:57 +0100 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

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cat /proc/cpuinfo:

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processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 15 model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU E1200 @ 1.60GHz

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Laptop:

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Thinkpad A22p/512MB/320GB

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Shift-F6 tries to delete. Shift-F4 shows the filename....... Weird.

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Both systems are openSUSE 11.0 fully updated(laptop is 32bit). The laptop was recently re-installed(bad RAM chip corrupted the filesystem).

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Still weirded out that it works differently on both machines......

That's half what the bug is about. The effect of shift/ctrl/alt with F[3,4,5,6] shouldn't depend on whether you're in or out of X, or what runlevel you're in. Edit current name shouldn't be Shift-F6 in X and runlevel 1, while Shift-F4 does the same thing on the ttys in runlevels 2-5 and Shift-F6 wants to delete current. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Patrick Shanahan

19 May 19 May

17:27

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* Felix Miata [05-19-11 12:13]:

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That's half what the bug is about. The effect of shift/ctrl/alt with F[3,4,5,6] shouldn't depend on whether you're in or out of X, or what runlevel you're in. Edit current name shouldn't be Shift-F6 in X and runlevel 1, while Shift-F4 does the same thing on the ttys in runlevels 2-5 and Shift-F6 wants to delete current.

+1 -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

23:24

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2011-05-19 at 13:27 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Felix Miata [05-19-11 12:13]:

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That's half what the bug is about. The effect of shift/ctrl/alt with F[3,4,5,6] shouldn't depend on whether you're in or out of X, or what runlevel you're in. Edit current name shouldn't be Shift-F6 in X and runlevel 1, while Shift-F4 does the same thing on the ttys in runlevels 2-5 and Shift-F6 wants to delete current.

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Put that +1 in the Bugzilla, here it does nothing >:-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk3VpsMACgkQtTMYHG2NR9X7rACfe/ptsrSt6dgqvr9Jz0VSLET8 lL0AnRCFVQS1kGSpXpeny44bRYWMXmQF =JjKi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Philipp Thomas

20 May 20 May

02:32

New subject: [opensuse] copy/mv in MC

On Thu, 19 May 2011 12:11:09 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:

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The effect of shift/ctrl/alt with F[3,4,5,6] shouldn't depend on whether you're in or out of X, or what runlevel you're in.

Sorry? X and the kernel don't share the same keymap, it's been that way since X came into existance. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Felix Miata

03:07

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On 2011/05/20 04:32 (GMT+0200) Philipp Thomas composed:

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On Thu, 19 May 2011 12:11:09 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:

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The effect of shift/ctrl/alt with F[3,4,5,6] shouldn't depend on whether you're in or out of X, or what runlevel you're in.

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Sorry? X and the kernel don't share the same keymap, it's been that way since X came into existance.

Did you read the bug? Why does the disparity not exist among all versions of all distros? Why are there only two behavioral groups? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

14:33

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-05-20 04:32, Philipp Thomas wrote:

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On Thu, 19 May 2011 12:11:09 -0400, Felix Miata <> wrote:

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The effect of shift/ctrl/alt with F[3,4,5,6] shouldn't depend on whether you're in or out of X, or what runlevel you're in.

Sorry? X and the kernel don't share the same keymap, it's been that way since X came into existance.

Why should we care? If we press shift-F6 it must do the same regardless of key map or where you are, text mode or X. It is shift-F6 everywhere. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3We7AACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XREACfSj+Hecx7d1yZ7Pga5J+2GIaO 8bkAoJL1k24D1GP3h47UUrqxTvHuzKej =DlT4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Philipp Thomas

21 May 21 May

15:52

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On Fri, 20 May 2011 16:33:20 +0200, "Carlos E. R." wrote:

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Why should we care?

Well, I think a DWIM (do what I mean) parser would be of utmost importance for Linux. Impossible you say? Why should I care?

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If we press shift-F6 it must do the same regardless of key map or where you are, text mode or X. It is shift-F6 everywhere.

Because some things are near to impossible. What if it clashes with default key mapping? Do you also want Alt-F2 to open a window on console, ALT-F4 to end a console Program ? Hmm, Alt-F something switches between console sessions ... As nice at it woud seem, it's nearly impossible to achieve. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

17:36

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-05-21 17:52, Philipp Thomas wrote:

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On Fri, 20 May 2011 16:33:20 +0200, "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:

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Why should we care?

Well, I think a DWIM (do what I mean) parser would be of utmost importance for Linux. Impossible you say? Why should I care?

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If we press shift-F6 it must do the same regardless of key map or where you are, text mode or X. It is shift-F6 everywhere.

Because some things are near to impossible. What if it clashes with default key mapping? Do you also want Alt-F2 to open a window on console, ALT-F4 to end a console Program ? Hmm, Alt-F something switches between console sessions ...

That is not what we say.

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As nice at it woud seem, it's nearly impossible to achieve.

Sorry, I don't see why I have to press shift-F6 in an xterm, and shift-F4 in console. Shift-F6 instead tries to delete the file. The keys are read, but mapped to the incorrect 'mc' function. We are not talking of Alt-F2. I don't see why it is impossible to correct that bug. I must be suddenly dumb. I don't care how devs solve it - just as long as they solve it. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3X+CUACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UFTwCeOhKzt6tzpS0sPJ/YKz5T/9I5 6PMAn3d+E8gmtE9fJs5zQKDRaqfIWGr2 =7Nqy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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