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Marco Calistri

21 Jul 2010 21 Jul '10

14:50

Friends, Ran zypper ref; zypper up few mins ago from my 11.2 x86-64 and zypper upgraded 40 pkgs including nvidia drivers. After reboot gdm now fails and system stay on console. What's wrong? Cheers, -- Marco Calistri <amdturion> ...all the good computer designs are bootlegged; the formally planned products, if they are built at all, are dogs! -- David E. Lundstrom, "A Few Good Men From Univac" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Marco Calistri

21 Jul 21 Jul

17:04

On Wed 21 Jul 2010 at 11:50:42 (-0300 UTC) Marco Calistri wrote:

Friends,

Ran zypper ref; zypper up few mins ago from my 11.2 x86-64 and zypper upgraded 40 pkgs including nvidia drivers.

After reboot gdm now fails and system stay on console.

What's wrong?

Cheers,

I noticed nvidia module went no uploaded by kernel. I had to hack /etc/X11/xorg.conf replacing "nvidia" with "nv" in Section "Device" but doing so I miss compiz functionality. Where to get the older drivers? -- Marco Calistri <amdturion> Whenever I see an unmarried woman carrying a child, my first response is one of respect. I know she could have taken the quick fix without anyone knowing, but she chose instead to let an innocent child live. -- Randy Alcorn -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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dwgallien

17:22

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I noticed nvidia module went no uploaded by kernel. I had to hack /etc/X11/xorg.conf replacing "nvidia" with "nv" in Section "Device" but doing so I miss compiz functionality.

Where to get the older drivers?

The proprietary nvidia drivers are at ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/ The 11.3 repo is now up. You can also try the "nouveau" driver now bundled with the kernel. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Greg Freemyer

17:35

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 1:22 PM, dwgallien wrote:

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I noticed nvidia module went no uploaded by kernel. I had to hack /etc/X11/xorg.conf replacing "nvidia" with "nv" in Section "Device" but doing so I miss compiz functionality.

Where to get the older drivers?

The proprietary nvidia drivers are at ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/ The 11.3 repo is now up. You can also try the "nouveau" driver now bundled with the kernel.

On the factory list there is an active discussion / effort to get the latest nvidia drivers compiled and provided back to nvidia to host. I haven't used the nvidia drivers, so I don't know the pros and cons of old vs. new. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Marco Calistri

17:37

On Wed 21 Jul 2010 at 14:22:28 (-0300 UTC) dwgallien wrote:

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I noticed nvidia module went no uploaded by kernel. I had to hack /etc/X11/xorg.conf replacing "nvidia" with "nv" in Section "Device" but doing so I miss compiz functionality.

Where to get the older drivers?

The proprietary nvidia drivers are at ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/ The 11.3 repo is now up. You can also try the "nouveau" driver now bundled with the kernel. Thanks, but I need the drivers for my 11.2 and I have not found older versions on such URL.

The bad of the story is that who is managing these updates should at least test it before to uploading on public repos [IMHO]. Cheers, -- Marco Calistri http://mcalistri.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Marco Calistri

18:01

On Wed 21 Jul 2010 at 14:37:00 (-0300 UTC) Marco Calistri wrote:

On Wed 21 Jul 2010 at 14:22:28 (-0300 UTC) dwgallien wrote:

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I noticed nvidia module went no uploaded by kernel. I had to hack /etc/X11/xorg.conf replacing "nvidia" with "nv" in Section "Device" but doing so I miss compiz functionality.

Where to get the older drivers?

The proprietary nvidia drivers are at ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/ The 11.3 repo is now up. You can also try the "nouveau" driver now bundled with the kernel. Thanks, but I need the drivers for my 11.2 and I have not found older versions on such URL.

The bad of the story is that who is managing these updates should at least test it before to uploading on public repos [IMHO].

Cheers,

Solved! By adding the symbolic link this way and by issuing modprobe: 1) ln -s /lib/modules/2.6.31.5-0.1-desktop/updates/nvidia.ko /lib/modules\/2.6.31.12-0.2-desktop/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/ 2) modprobe nvidia note: my kernel flavour is 2.6.31.12-0.2-desktop, while nvidia driver was installed by the zypper up into /lib/modules/2.6.31.5-0.1-desktop At the end not a big pain! -- Marco Calistri <amdturion> The connection between the language in which we think/program and the problems and solutions we can imagine is very close. For this reason restricting language features with the intent of eliminating programmer errors is at best dangerous. -- Bjarne Stroustrup -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Greg Freemyer

18:26

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

On Wed 21 Jul 2010 at 14:22:28 (-0300 UTC) dwgallien wrote:

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I noticed nvidia module went no uploaded by kernel. I had to hack /etc/X11/xorg.conf replacing "nvidia" with "nv" in Section "Device" but doing so I miss compiz functionality.

Where to get the older drivers?

The proprietary nvidia drivers are at ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/ The 11.3 repo is now up. You can also try the "nouveau" driver now bundled with the kernel. Thanks, but I need the drivers for my 11.2 and I have not found older versions on such URL.

The bad of the story is that who is managing these updates should at least test it before to uploading on public repos [IMHO].

They appear to have 3 versions available for download in the 11.2 directory. None of those will work? Or do I misunderstand the naming convention? Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Marco Calistri

18:47

Il giorno mer, 21/07/2010 alle 14.26 -0400, Greg Freemyer ha scritto:

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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On Wed 21 Jul 2010 at 14:22:28 (-0300 UTC) dwgallien wrote:

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I noticed nvidia module went no uploaded by kernel. I had to hack /etc/X11/xorg.conf replacing "nvidia" with "nv" in Section "Device" but doing so I miss compiz functionality.

Where to get the older drivers?

The proprietary nvidia drivers are at ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/ The 11.3 repo is now up. You can also try the "nouveau" driver now bundled with the kernel. Thanks, but I need the drivers for my 11.2 and I have not found older versions on such URL.

The bad of the story is that who is managing these updates should at least test it before to uploading on public repos [IMHO].

They appear to have 3 versions available for download in the 11.2 directory.

None of those will work? Or do I misunderstand the naming convention?

Greg

Greg, Versions depend upon Nvidia card you have installed. In my case since my laptop has a GeForce Go 6150, I have to rely on: nvidia-gfxG02-kmp-desktop-195.36.31_2.6.31.5_0.1-11.1.x86_64 x11-video-nvidiaG02-195.36.31-12.1.x86_64 See U, -- opensuse 11.2 - Linux 2.6.31.12-0.2-default x86_64 AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology MK-36 - GeForce Go 6150 Gnome 2.28.2

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Marco Calistri

28 Jul 28 Jul

19:55

On Wed 21 Jul 2010 at 15:47:31 (-0300 UTC) Marco Calistri wrote:

Il giorno mer, 21/07/2010 alle 14.26 -0400, Greg Freemyer ha scritto:

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On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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On Wed 21 Jul 2010 at 14:22:28 (-0300 UTC) dwgallien wrote:

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I noticed nvidia module went no uploaded by kernel. I had to hack /etc/X11/xorg.conf replacing "nvidia" with "nv" in Section "Device" but doing so I miss compiz functionality.

Where to get the older drivers?

The proprietary nvidia drivers are at ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/ The 11.3 repo is now up. You can also try the "nouveau" driver now bundled with the kernel. Thanks, but I need the drivers for my 11.2 and I have not found older versions on such URL.

The bad of the story is that who is managing these updates should at least test it before to uploading on public repos [IMHO].

They appear to have 3 versions available for download in the 11.2 directory.

None of those will work? Or do I misunderstand the naming convention?

Greg

Greg,

Versions depend upon Nvidia card you have installed. In my case since my laptop has a GeForce Go 6150, I have to rely on:

nvidia-gfxG02-kmp-desktop-195.36.31_2.6.31.5_0.1-11.1.x86_64 x11-video-nvidiaG02-195.36.31-12.1.x86_64

See U,

Updating right now Nvidia drivers to: x11-video-nvidiaG02-256.35-15.1.x86_64.rpm and nvidia-gfxG02-kmp-desktop-256.35_2.6.31.5_0.1-14.1 I guess this will fails again, since kernel version (installed) is 2.6.31.12-0-2-desktop So now the question is: WHY on earth nvidia-kmp is updated for older kernel version? TKS, -- Marco Calistri <amdturion> When paying tolls, remember that it is necessary to release the quarter a full 3 seconds before passing the basket if you are traveling more than 60 MPH. -- Massachusetts Driver Education Manual -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Patrick Shanahan

20:20

* Marco Calistri [07-28-10 16:01]:

Updating right now Nvidia drivers to: x11-video-nvidiaG02-256.35-15.1.x86_64.rpm and nvidia-gfxG02-kmp-desktop-256.35_2.6.31.5_0.1-14.1

I guess this will fails again, since kernel version (installed) is 2.6.31.12-0-2-desktop

I have 2.6.31.14-1 default and no problem with nvidia-256.35.

So now the question is:

WHY on earth nvidia-kmp is updated for older kernel version?

It is not needed for 2.6.31, apparently. I removed it w/o consequence. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Marco Calistri

20:35

On Wed 28 Jul 2010 at 17:20:59 (-0300 UTC) Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Marco Calistri [07-28-10 16:01]:

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Updating right now Nvidia drivers to: x11-video-nvidiaG02-256.35-15.1.x86_64.rpm and nvidia-gfxG02-kmp-desktop-256.35_2.6.31.5_0.1-14.1

I guess this will fails again, since kernel version (installed) is 2.6.31.12-0-2-desktop

I have 2.6.31.14-1 default and no problem with nvidia-256.35.

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So now the question is:

WHY on earth nvidia-kmp is updated for older kernel version?

It is not needed for 2.6.31, apparently. I removed it w/o consequence.

*Apparently* is the right term, since my previous nvidia update prevented gdm to start: there was no any nvidia.ko module loaded, for this reason I added a symbolic link from /lib/modules/2.6.31.5-0.1-desktop/updates/nvidia.ko to /lib/modules/2.6.31.12-0.2-desktop/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/ A curiosity: what is your /etc/X11/xorg.conf "Driver" setting? I have "nvidia" here. GL, -- Marco Calistri <amdturion> In America any boy may become President and I suppose it's just one of the risks he takes. -- Adlai Stevenson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Patrick Shanahan

20:56

* Marco Calistri [07-28-10 16:38]:

A curiosity: what is your /etc/X11/xorg.conf "Driver" setting?

I have "nvidia" here.

I have *no* xorg.conf file :^) glxinfo reports OpenGL version string: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 256.35 direct rendering: Yes OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 7300 GS/PCI/SSE2 And, after updating kernel-default to 2.6.31.14-1-default, I just did a reboot to runlevel 3, removed the NVIDIA.xxx.bin installation, added the nvidia repo, installed the 256.35 driver and changed to runlevel 5 w/o a problem. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Greg Freemyer

21:39

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Marco Calistri [07-28-10 16:38]:

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A curiosity: what is your /etc/X11/xorg.conf "Driver" setting?

I have "nvidia" here.

I have *no* xorg.conf file :^)

If you want to see what it would look like, go to init 3 and run "X --configure". It will save off a temp copy of how X is recognizing your setup in your home dir. And if you need to tweak, you copy that into /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Marco Calistri

22:48

Il giorno mer, 28/07/2010 alle 17.39 -0400, Greg Freemyer ha scritto:

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Marco Calistri [07-28-10 16:38]:

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A curiosity: what is your /etc/X11/xorg.conf "Driver" setting?

I have "nvidia" here.

I have *no* xorg.conf file :^)

If you want to see what it would look like, go to init 3 and run "X --configure".

It will save off a temp copy of how X is recognizing your setup in your home dir. And if you need to tweak, you copy that into /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

Greg For the moment I wont experiment further; my request was related to the correct install/use of nvidia updates nowaday.

In any case your comment sounds interesting. Cheers, -- Marco Calistri - http://mcalistri.blogspot.com openSUSE VERSION = 11.2 2.6.31.12-0.2-desktop Uptime: 19:45 up 0:36, 2 users, load average: 0,08, 0,21, 0,51

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Marco Calistri

22:43

Il giorno mer, 28/07/2010 alle 16.56 -0400, Patrick Shanahan ha scritto:

* Marco Calistri [07-28-10 16:38]:

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A curiosity: what is your /etc/X11/xorg.conf "Driver" setting?

I have "nvidia" here.

I have *no* xorg.conf file :^)

glxinfo reports OpenGL version string: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 256.35 direct rendering: Yes OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 7300 GS/PCI/SSE2

And, after updating kernel-default to 2.6.31.14-1-default, I just did a reboot to runlevel 3, removed the NVIDIA.xxx.bin installation, added the nvidia repo, installed the 256.35 driver and changed to runlevel 5 w/o a problem.

-- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org

Where do you have picked 2.6.31.14-1-default? I ran almost daily updates, but I have never be prompted to upgrade my current kernel, though I have 11.2-update repo enabled. -- Marco Calistri - http://mcalistri.blogspot.com openSUSE VERSION = 11.2 2.6.31.12-0.2-desktop Uptime: 19:43 up 0:34, 2 users, load average: 0,07, 0,21, 0,57

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Patrick Shanahan

23:37

* Marco Calistri [07-28-10 18:51]:

Where do you have picked 2.6.31.14-1-default? I ran almost daily updates, but I have never be prompted to upgrade my current kernel, though I have 11.2-update repo enabled.

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/openSUSE-11.2/openSUSE_11.... Alias : Kernel_openSUSE-11.2 Name : Kernel:openSUSE-11.2 (openSUSE_11.2) URI : http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/openSUSE-11.2/openSUSE_11.... Enabled : Yes Priority : 99 Auto-refresh : Off Keep Packages : Off Type : rpm-md GPG Check : On GPG Key URI : http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/openSUSE-11.2/openSUSE_11.... Path Prefix : Parent Service : MD Cache Path : /var/cache/zypp/raw/Kernel_openSUSE-11.2 But I live rather close to the edge :^). -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Marco Calistri

29 Jul 29 Jul

12:53

On Wed 28 Jul 2010 at 20:37:35 (-0300 UTC) Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Marco Calistri [07-28-10 18:51]:

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Where do you have picked 2.6.31.14-1-default? I ran almost daily updates, but I have never be prompted to upgrade my current kernel, though I have 11.2-update repo enabled.

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/openSUSE-11.2/openSUSE_11....

Alias : Kernel_openSUSE-11.2 Name : Kernel:openSUSE-11.2 (openSUSE_11.2) URI : http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/openSUSE-11.2/openSUSE_11.... Enabled : Yes Priority : 99 Auto-refresh : Off Keep Packages : Off Type : rpm-md GPG Check : On GPG Key URI : http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/openSUSE-11.2/openSUSE_11.... Path Prefix : Parent Service : MD Cache Path : /var/cache/zypp/raw/Kernel_openSUSE-11.2

But I live rather close to the edge :^).

Fine, So what happens to this "edge" kernel version? How much time they took to be moved into official update 11.2 repo? See U, Marco -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Patrick Shanahan

13:16

* Marco Calistri [07-29-10 08:54]:

On Wed 28 Jul 2010 at 20:37:35 (-0300 UTC) Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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But I live rather close to the edge :^).

Fine, So what happens to this "edge" kernel version? How much time they took to be moved into official update 11.2 repo?

Only the Shadow knows what evil lurks in the minds of men... Who knows? Maybe nothing, maybe problems/bugs will be found and it will be replaced or trashed. If you are not lacking function and you are not having "kernel" problem, is there a reason to change? -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Marcus Meissner

13:48

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 09:16:46AM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Marco Calistri [07-29-10 08:54]:

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On Wed 28 Jul 2010 at 20:37:35 (-0300 UTC) Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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But I live rather close to the edge :^).

Fine, So what happens to this "edge" kernel version? How much time they took to be moved into official update 11.2 repo?

Only the Shadow knows what evil lurks in the minds of men...

Who knows? Maybe nothing, maybe problems/bugs will be found and it will be replaced or trashed. If you are not lacking function and you are not having "kernel" problem, is there a reason to change?

We have not released a kernel update for 11.2 since March. There just was no hurrying need for it so far. And bleeding edge it isnt either. ;) Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Patrick Shanahan

14:04

* Marcus Meissner [07-29-10 09:49]:

We have not released a kernel update for 11.2 since March.

There just was no hurrying need for it so far.

And bleeding edge it isnt either. ;)

not, but not standard and not really needed. I may try the 2.6.35... strain, just for ??kicks??. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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