[opensuse] opensuse 13.1 - xdm is installed with the minimal selection (for text-mode only) ??
Why on earth does the minimal install insist on installing 'xdm' ?? This seems to be new, maybe introduced with an update, I dunno. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (6.4°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen said the following on 01/11/2014 02:19 PM:
Why on earth does the minimal install insist on installing 'xdm' ?? This seems to be new, maybe introduced with an update, I dunno.
Is this a text-only, headless or a GUI resulting 'minimal install'? ("Context is everything"!) If there is no GUI/X-server then I can see that its not necessary. What is the dependency that necessitates XDM? (Sorry, I'm not on 13.1 I can test that.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward said the following on 01/11/2014 02:36 PM:
Per Jessen said the following on 01/11/2014 02:19 PM:
Why on earth does the minimal install insist on installing 'xdm' ?? This seems to be new, maybe introduced with an update, I dunno.
Is this a text-only, headless or a GUI resulting 'minimal install'? ("Context is everything"!) If there is no GUI/X-server then I can see that its not necessary.
What is the dependency that necessitates XDM? (Sorry, I'm not on 13.1 I can test that.)
On 12.3 I get $ sudo rpm -q --whatrequires xdm xorg-x11-essentials-7.6_1-187.1.noarch kdebase4-workspace-4.11.5-5.1.i586 And I suppose you could iterate... but I *DO* have all of KDE4 loaded -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward wrote:
Per Jessen said the following on 01/11/2014 02:19 PM:
Why on earth does the minimal install insist on installing 'xdm' ?? This seems to be new, maybe introduced with an update, I dunno.
Is this a text-only, headless or a GUI resulting 'minimal install'? ("Context is everything"!)
There is no context as such - it is what you get when you choose the "Minimal Install" (or what ever it is called) pattern. I remove a few unrelated things (grub, firewall, ntfs, wireless stuff), and add man and man-pages.
If there is no GUI/X-server then I can see that its not necessary.
In text-_only_ mode, there is no GUI :-)
What is the dependency that necessitates XDM? (Sorry, I'm not on 13.1 I can test that.)
Looks like it is "yast2-install-wf". -- Per Jessen, Zürich (7.4°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
If there is no GUI/X-server then I can see that its not necessary. In text-_only_ mode, there is no GUI :-)
FWIW. I set up my firewall without a desktop, but I frequently run graphical apps, including Wireshark, via ssh. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/11/2014 01:07 PM, James Knott wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
If there is no GUI/X-server then I can see that its not necessary. In text-_only_ mode, there is no GUI :-)
FWIW. I set up my firewall without a desktop, but I frequently run graphical apps, including Wireshark, via ssh.
But you don't need XDM on the firewall to run graphical apps via ssh, although I can see why it might be a dependency. -- Explain again the part about rm -rf / -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
В Sat, 11 Jan 2014 14:36:17 -0500
Anton Aylward
Per Jessen said the following on 01/11/2014 02:19 PM:
Why on earth does the minimal install insist on installing 'xdm' ?? This seems to be new, maybe introduced with an update, I dunno.
Is this a text-only, headless or a GUI resulting 'minimal install'? ("Context is everything"!) If there is no GUI/X-server then I can see that its not necessary.
xdm can be used to log in remotely, so I do not see how local GUI or X-server are relevant.
What is the dependency that necessitates XDM? (Sorry, I'm not on 13.1 I can test that.)
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Per Jessen wrote:
Why on earth does the minimal install insist on installing 'xdm' ?? This seems to be new, maybe introduced with an update, I dunno.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858424 -- Per Jessen, Zürich (6.4°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 11/01/2014 20:19, Per Jessen a écrit :
Why on earth does the minimal install insist on installing 'xdm' ?? This seems to be new, maybe introduced with an update, I dunno.
/Per
usually, minimal install is really so minimal it even wont have yast. Not tested on 12.1, though jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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usually, minimal install is really so minimal it even wont have yast. Not tested on 12.1, though
It is way too minimal. I never use that, I install the minimal graphical pattern instead. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlLRoWAACgkQtTMYHG2NR9Wu9ACghNIMzWTRbLvhwOoChFpiUgVt dAUAoIsGbUr+YqdIl+y4kUzxSOXWMsvH =37GP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2014-01-11 20:44, jdd wrote:
usually, minimal install is really so minimal it even wont have yast. Not tested on 12.1, though
It is way too minimal. I never use that, I install the minimal graphical pattern instead.
For a server, it's 95% ready - since 11.x I always have to make a few adjustments, but it's pretty good. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (7.4°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-01-11 21:54, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
It is way too minimal. I never use that, I install the minimal graphical pattern instead.
For a server, it's 95% ready - since 11.x I always have to make a few adjustments, but it's pretty good.
I like to be able to start YaST gui remotely on my desktop machine. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)
Le 11/01/2014 22:29, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
On 2014-01-11 21:54, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
It is way too minimal. I never use that, I install the minimal graphical pattern instead.
For a server, it's 95% ready - since 11.x I always have to make a few adjustments, but it's pretty good.
I like to be able to start YaST gui remotely on my desktop machine.
le too. that said, minimal install is pretty big, comparing to competition, I never had time to investigate why. may be this (yast2 --qt) triggers xdm? jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
jdd wrote:
Le 11/01/2014 22:29, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
On 2014-01-11 21:54, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
It is way too minimal. I never use that, I install the minimal graphical pattern instead.
For a server, it's 95% ready - since 11.x I always have to make a few adjustments, but it's pretty good.
I like to be able to start YaST gui remotely on my desktop machine.
le too.
that said, minimal install is pretty big, comparing to competition, I never had time to investigate why.
may be this (yast2 --qt) triggers xdm?
xdm wasn't included before, it's new. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (5.9°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
jdd wrote:
Le 11/01/2014 20:19, Per Jessen a écrit :
Why on earth does the minimal install insist on installing 'xdm' ?? This seems to be new, maybe introduced with an update, I dunno.
/Per
usually, minimal install is really so minimal it even wont have yast.
jdd, of course it has yast. Otherwise you couldn't even finish the install. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (7.1°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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