On Wednesday 19 September 2007 9:12:01 pm russbucket wrote:

I've been running SUSE Linux for the last 2+ years over a fibre network here in Moses Lake WA. No problems installing or running. The fibre is owned by our Public Utility District and individual ISPs can contact to use it. I have phone and ISP over it. TV is supposed to be coming. I'm presently on SUSE 10.2. My router connects to the fibre box on the outside of the house. I run Konqueror and Firefox as Browsers, GFTP for FTP. All worked out of the box. SUSE auto configure the network on install.

My ISp connects to Verizon for the phone.

I have read some complaints that after Verizon installs the fiber optics they remove all the copper so if you want to go back to the old phone and dsl stuff, you're screwed. Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Saturday 22 September 2007 07:08, StephenW wrote:

What? They married the two systems? Fiber to copper? That seems counter-productive. Did they do this with the TV postion too?

Stephen: My daughter has Verizon FIOS and it works like this: Fiber to the house where it is terminated into a big box that has telephone wire and 75 ohm cable coming out of it. The telephone wire goes to the router and, presumably, to the other phone wiring (because the phones work) and the 75 ohm cable goes to the set top box. Her internet works with no problems, the router has wireless connectivity and the tv channels look great. No muss, no fuss and nothing to concern the FIOS guys about. Fred -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Just for the record, Verizon FiOS is either run via DHCP (yes the standard protocol) or PPPoE (if you tell me you haven't seen gpppoe or kpppoe on the install disks, I'll tell you that you aren't running a recent version). The big problem with the router is that it was custom designed, but if you aren't running MOCA (multimedia over coax, meaning a internet connection over coax), you can use any router that have a 100 BaseT physical WAN. Just about any major router OEM (Belkin, Linksys, Dlink, & Netgear that I have personally seen) can be used. If you have to use the coax install, ask for a NIM and run your router, don't like the Actiontec, then don't use it. And as for marrying copper and fiber, did you think you would plug up the fiber directly to your existing phones? Please. Of course it has to be married to the old system, for reverse compatibility if nothing else. The existing nid/pid is tapped into for dial tone, the existing coax is tapped into for the tv. If you insist, a new run of ethernet is put into place or they use the existing coax. It is still fast and great quality, but don't let a sales man sell you something out of fantasy. If they sold you a car, you'd check the tires and engine, why don't you see if they have a test how, or if a neighbor that already has it will demo it for you. If you can't find either, try the forums (http://broadbandreports.com works rather well). The only bad thing I can honestly say is that waiting for the tech support is a bitch. Anyway, I figured I'd put my 2 cents in. Enjoy.... John (raz0r) wrote:

On 9/22/07, StephenW wrote:

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I have FiOS and you'll be fine. No special software needed. Verizon didn't remove my copper, but they do cut it to tie the phone system into the fiber.

What? They married the two systems? Fiber to copper? That seems counter-productive. Did they do this with the TV postion too?

My biggest complaint is the router. They used an

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ActionTec. Has some very granular controls when compared to say a Linksys, etc., but you'd better hope any ethernet runs don't extend more than about 90 feet. Seems it can't produce enough juice on the wire, so that really bites.

"Granular controls"? I do not understand the term. Went to www.actiontec.com. Makes me curious how this will be installed, Will the TV receive its signal via wireless to their STB or direct fiber to the STB? You suggest they use the existing copper.

I think I need to talk to the rep - this thread has helped inform me to ask important questions.

stephen

Fred answered the first question about the phone and copper.

The firewall interface provides more options/features than you would get with say a Linksys. Those advanced options provide you with more control. More control means translates to granular.

The TV STB receives its signal via coax.

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--- Damon Register wrote:

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A Verizon person was just at my house to talk about switching to Fiber Optic and to buy a 3for1 package (phone, TV,internet). I really envy you. Where I am in Marietta GA I can't get any decent high speed net service. The Comcast cable used to be good but this year it has gotten very bad with very slow data. I just signed up for DSL with ATT but

StephenW wrote: the wires in my area are old and I am over 10000 feet from the CO so the DSL has been intermittent.

Marietta, GA - the place where many of the companies in the Northeast have relocated their corporate offices? So many people have been moved to Marietta I supposed it was in vanguard of everything. Comcast in Sarasota, FL has always been intermittent. That is why when it became available I signed on with a wireless provider (Qwest - later taken over by a local investor and renamed Hameltronics). It has been top notch (Well, the antenna is less than a mile from my house - grin). We will see if Verizon is at all as good as the hype. Stephen Sarasota, FL -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org