I HATE KMAIL

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Isen Kusima

3 Jan 2002 3 Jan '02

15:23

When I was using my computer, the power went off. (electrical company fault). And when the power were on again. I lost KMail setting!!! I really hate to enter my e-maill address again, put password, put pop.my_provider.net, LOTS OF FILTER, etc.... Why can't KMail retain it's setting??? This is my setting if this matter: I'm using SuSE 7.3 + KDE 2.2.2 + Kernel 2.4.10 /boot ext2 64MB /swap 3GB / reiser 15GB /home reiser 10.6GB

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Michael Nelson

3 Jan 3 Jan

15:47

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On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 10:23:33PM +0700, Isen Kusima wrote: -> -> -> When I was using my computer, the power went off. (electrical company fault). -> -> And when the power were on again. -> -> I lost KMail setting!!! Ever hear of backups? Michael -- "# chmod a+x /bin/laden" Michael Nelson San Francisco, CA

Isen Kusima

15:51

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On Thursday 03 January 2002 10:47 pm, Michael Nelson wrote:

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On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 10:23:33PM +0700, Isen Kusima wrote: -> -> -> When I was using my computer, the power went off. (electrical company fault). -> -> And when the power were on again. -> -> I lost KMail setting!!!

Ever hear of backups?

I don't lose my e-mail!!!! It's all there..... It just KMail setting I lose!!!! the mail setting the filter setting all small tweak that I make... And, yes I do make backup!!!

Steven Hatfield

16:06

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On Thu, 2002-01-03 at 10:51, Isen Kusima wrote:

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On Thursday 03 January 2002 10:47 pm, Michael Nelson wrote:

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On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 10:23:33PM +0700, Isen Kusima wrote: -> -> -> When I was using my computer, the power went off. (electrical company fault). -> -> And when the power were on again. -> -> I lost KMail setting!!!

Ever hear of backups?

I don't lose my e-mail!!!! It's all there.....

It just KMail setting I lose!!!! the mail setting the filter setting all small tweak that I make...

And, yes I do make backup!!!

KMail's settings are stored in a config file. Once you have everything just the way you want it, exit KMail and backup this file. The configuration file located at: ~/.kde2/share/config/kmailrc and it contains your program settings (filters, for instance), account information, etc. NOTE: If you aren't using SuSE (not likely, considering the list you are posting to :-)), then that .kde2 directory would probably be .kde. For the record, I've never had this problem - KMail has always kept it's configuration for me... but then I have a UPS that keeps my machine running during short duration power failures, and shuts it down gracefully during long ones. It wasn't expensive, and I highly recommend that you get one. I've been using Evolution for a couple of weeks now, and I like it much more than KMail. Although it's not KDE native, it is a very nice program, imho. You might want to check it out, if you haven't already. Have a great day! -Steven

jfweber＠bellsouth.net

21:36

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** On 03 Jan 2002 11:06:59 -0500 Steven Hatfield dashed off this message: **I've been using Evolution for a couple of weeks now, and I like it much **more than KMail url please? ( or alternatively other location type info ) TIA -- j afterthought : how

Steven Hatfield

21:36

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On Thu, 2002-01-03 at 16:36, jfweber@bellsouth.net wrote:

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** On 03 Jan 2002 11:06:59 -0500 Steven Hatfield dashed off this message:

**I've been using Evolution for a couple of weeks now, and I like it much **more than KMail

url please? ( or alternatively other location type info ) TIA

Evolution is a product of Ximian - it's almost a direct Outlook replacement, without forcing you to subscribe to the Microsoft Virus Distribution Network. You can find out all about it at: http://www.ximian.com/products/ximian_evolution/ Some Tips: I used the Ximian installer to install all of Gnome 1.4 (answering "no" to the GDM question) and then used red-carpet to get Evolution. This worked very well on my 7.2 Pro system. Then I used gnomecc to assign the URL handler and Mime Types to Konqueror for HTML, so that Evolution opens URL links right into Konqueror. Good luck! -Steven

Rene Engelhard

15:51

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Michael Nelson wrote:

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On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 10:23:33PM +0700, Isen Kusima wrote: -> -> -> When I was using my computer, the power went off. (electrical company fault). -> -> And when the power were on again. -> -> I lost KMail setting!!!

Ever hear of backups?

Ever heard of better mail user agents than KMail. mutt? Rene

Isen Kusima

15:56

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On Thursday 03 January 2002 10:51 pm, Rene Engelhard wrote:

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Michael Nelson wrote:

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On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 10:23:33PM +0700, Isen Kusima wrote: -> -> -> When I was using my computer, the power went off. (electrical company fault). -> -> And when the power were on again. -> -> I lost KMail setting!!!

Ever hear of backups?

Ever heard of better mail user agents than KMail.

mutt?

Will it lost the setting on power failure????

Rene Engelhard

16:07

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Isen Kusima wrote:

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On Thursday 03 January 2002 10:51 pm, Rene Engelhard wrote:

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Michael Nelson wrote:

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On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 10:23:33PM +0700, Isen Kusima wrote: [...] -> And when the power were on again. -> -> I lost KMail setting!!!

Ever hear of backups?

Ever heard of better mail user agents than KMail.

mutt?

Will it lost the setting on power failure????

No, it does not happened on my PC. I have a laptop and sometimes I forgot to plug it into the power so it runs with battery. the battery is damaged so it only lives 3 minutes. And often it happened that this PC got down. mutt has his settings there without problems. Configuring mutt is a little bit tricky but mutt is the best. Oh, I forgot: It's a console mailer. You also need a functioning sendmail/postfix/qmail or whatever and fetchmail to get your mails configured properly. Rene

Anders Johansson

16:04

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On Thursday 03 January 2002 16.51, Rene Engelhard wrote:

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Ever heard of better mail user agents than KMail.

mutt?

hm. Q: I'm losing files on power outages, what do I do? A: Use mutt Are you serious? //Anders

Rene Engelhard

16:09

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Anders Johansson wrote:

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On Thursday 03 January 2002 16.51, Rene Engelhard wrote:

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Ever heard of better mail user agents than KMail.

mutt?

hm.

Q: I'm losing files on power outages, what do I do?

A: Use mutt

He looses his _settings_. And at me that happened often before (I wrote why in may other posting) and the .muttrc was there always. I do not know what KMail does with his configfile... Rene

Anders Johansson

16:17

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On Thursday 03 January 2002 17.09, Rene Engelhard wrote:

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And at me that happened often before (I wrote why in may other posting) and the .muttrc was there always.

I do not know what KMail does with his configfile...

Nor do I. I had a massive power outage two days ago because if the winter storms, and my kmail settings are still here. //Anders

Isen Kusima

16:24

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On Thursday 03 January 2002 11:17 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:

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On Thursday 03 January 2002 17.09, Rene Engelhard wrote:

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And at me that happened often before (I wrote why in may other posting) and the .muttrc was there always.

I do not know what KMail does with his configfile...

Nor do I. I had a massive power outage two days ago because if the winter storms, and my kmail settings are still here.

Did you run KMail when the power outage happend??? I run KMail while power outage happend...

Anders Johansson

16:28

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On Thursday 03 January 2002 17.24, Isen Kusima wrote:

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Did you run KMail when the power outage happend??? I run KMail while power outage happend...

My comp usually runs 24/7 and kmail is always running. //Anders

Patrick

21:00

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On Thursday 03 January 2002 11:17 am, Anders Johansson, went on about:

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On Thursday 03 January 2002 17.09, Rene Engelhard wrote:

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And at me that happened often before (I wrote why in may other posting) and the .muttrc was there always.

I do not know what KMail does with his configfile...

Nor do I. I had a massive power outage two days ago because if the winter storms, and my kmail settings are still here.

//Anders

Nor do I Anders. I have had power dropouts and lockups while using KMail and have never lost my KMail settings. Have never experienced any mail loss either, but I am at a loss that Isen would lose his settings file after a power failure? I will assume from Isen's mails that he was using KMail at the time of the power failure? Did you check your home directory to see if the file still existed (kmailrc) after the outage? I suspect laboring thru a Mutt setup is not your answer though. Patrick -- ---KMail 1.3.2--- SuSE Linux v7.2 Pro--- Registered Linux User #225206 /tracerb@sprintmail.com/ *Magic Page Products* Amiga-Sales & Service-http://home.sprintmail.com/~tracerb

jfweber＠bellsouth.net

21:40

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** On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:17:18 +0100 Anders Johansson dashed off this message: **Nor do I. I had a massive power outage two days ago because if the winter **storms, and my kmail settings are still here. ** **//Anders and aren't all you guys , w/ hte posible exception of the origional poster, using ups of some sort? It's an absoluter requirement to protect any computer investment ( an no I don't sell em or own stock or any of that stuff, just keep wandering thru locations that seem to be having power problems lately ( sun spots?) -- j afterthought : Fresh remarks half-baked daily in our own ovens!

Anders Johansson

21:50

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On Thursday 03 January 2002 22.40, jfweber@bellsouth.net wrote:

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and aren't all you guys , w/ hte posible exception of the origional poster, using ups of some sort? It's an absoluter requirement to protect any computer investment ( an no I don't sell em or own stock or any of that stuff, just keep wandering thru locations that seem to be having power problems lately ( sun spots?)

Nope. I haven't gotten around to making that particular investement yet. When I find a new job I will, but until then, the $100+ is a bit steep for me. But I agree, for data protection a UPS is essential. //Anders PS. My first mail with kmail 1.3.7 (kde 2.91). I hope it's not too borked.

Isen Kusima

16:07

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On Thursday 03 January 2002 10:23 pm, Isen Kusima wrote:

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When I was using my computer, the power went off. (electrical company fault).

And when the power were on again.

I lost KMail setting!!!

I really hate to enter my e-maill address again, put password, put pop.my_provider.net, LOTS OF FILTER, etc....

Why can't KMail retain it's setting???

This is my setting if this matter: I'm using SuSE 7.3 + KDE 2.2.2 + Kernel 2.4.10 /boot ext2 64MB /swap 3GB / reiser 15GB /home reiser 10.6GB

Maybe I wasn't clear... I don't lose e-mail on power outage... I lose the KMail setting!!!

Isen Kusima

4 Jan 4 Jan

09:12

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Thank you for all of you who answer to my problem. Some said they didn't lose the KMail setting when power outage occur and they open KMail. I suspect there must be some mistake in my SuSE 7.3 setup. Since I just got 7.3 a few weeks ago, I tweak every here & there. Try this, try that..... I will try to reinstall 7.3 and see if the problem still exist. One more things... My user acct can't run KWinTV. I create more acct to see if something wrong with mine, but still no luck. KWinTV can only in root. I believe this is the sign that I need to re-install the 7.3 setup. ;((( OK then, thank you for all of you who answer.

Joshua Lee

6 Jan 6 Jan

03:13

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On Friday 04 January 2002 04:12 am, Isen Kusima wrote:

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I believe this is the sign that I need to re-install the 7.3 setup. ;(((

Unlike Windows, reinstalling is rarely the best way to fix problems in Linux. Almost always the problems are fixable without a reinstallation, because Linux can't get corrupted the way a Windows system can.

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