[opensuse] What's happened to South African mirrors?
ftp.up.ac.za/mirrors/opensuse/opensuse/distribution/leap/42.2 and the other unofficial one that existed since time began ftp.is.co.za/mirror/opensuse/distribution/leap/42.2/ are empty although the directory is still there. What's happened to them? Thanks Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/03/2017 04:21 AM, Dave Plater wrote:
ftp.up.ac.za/mirrors/opensuse/opensuse/distribution/leap/42.2 and the other unofficial one that existed since time began ftp.is.co.za/mirror/opensuse/distribution/leap/42.2/ are empty although the directory is still there. What's happened to them?
Thanks
Dave P
You do realize that those aren't under the control of Opensuse, right? Never obsess over any given mirror. There's no reason to pick a close one. opensuse uses a round robin sort of routing anyway AFAIK. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-03-03 20:09, John Andersen wrote:
Never obsess over any given mirror. There's no reason to pick a close one. opensuse uses a round robin sort of routing anyway AFAIK.
Some people can not use that, for several reasons. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
On 03/03/2017 11:10 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2017-03-03 20:09, John Andersen wrote:
Never obsess over any given mirror. There's no reason to pick a close one. opensuse uses a round robin sort of routing anyway AFAIK.
Some people can not use that, for several reasons.
But they can pick any random mirror. There's never a reason to limit yourself to an in-country mirror, unless you live in North Korea. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done.
On 2017-03-03 20:15, John Andersen wrote:
On 03/03/2017 11:10 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2017-03-03 20:09, John Andersen wrote:
Never obsess over any given mirror. There's no reason to pick a close one. opensuse uses a round robin sort of routing anyway AFAIK.
Some people can not use that, for several reasons.
But they can pick any random mirror. There's never a reason to limit yourself to an in-country mirror, unless you live in North Korea.
Well, not any random mirror, but a defined one. Organizations that use proxying need a defined mirror, not a random one. On the other hand, it is quite possible that in Africa picking a mirror in Europe will be slower than one in the continent. Just a guess. All that aside, if the mirror existed and worked and now it doesn't, it has a problem and the OP is interested in finding about it. Also, the mirror will have to be taken out of the list of mirrors. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
John Andersen wrote:
On 03/03/2017 04:21 AM, Dave Plater wrote:
ftp.up.ac.za/mirrors/opensuse/opensuse/distribution/leap/42.2 and the other unofficial one that existed since time began ftp.is.co.za/mirror/opensuse/distribution/leap/42.2/ are empty although the directory is still there. What's happened to them?
Thanks
Dave P
You do realize that those aren't under the control of Opensuse, right?
Never obsess over any given mirror. There's no reason to pick a close one. opensuse uses a round robin sort of routing anyway AFAIK.
No, mirrorbrain attempts to find a geographically close server. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.4°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
John Andersen wrote:
On 03/03/2017 11:10 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2017-03-03 20:09, John Andersen wrote:
Never obsess over any given mirror. There's no reason to pick a close one. opensuse uses a round robin sort of routing anyway AFAIK.
Some people can not use that, for several reasons.
But they can pick any random mirror. There's never a reason to limit yourself to an in-country mirror, unless you live in North Korea.
Mirrorbrain works on the idea that throughput is often better for in-country mirrors. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.4°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2017-03-03 20:15, John Andersen wrote:
On 03/03/2017 11:10 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2017-03-03 20:09, John Andersen wrote:
Never obsess over any given mirror. There's no reason to pick a close one. opensuse uses a round robin sort of routing anyway AFAIK.
Some people can not use that, for several reasons.
But they can pick any random mirror. There's never a reason to limit yourself to an in-country mirror, unless you live in North Korea.
Well, not any random mirror, but a defined one. Organizations that use proxying need a defined mirror, not a random one.
There are ways around that. http://wiki.jessen.ch/index/How_to_cache_openSUSE_repositories_with_Squid
All that aside, if the mirror existed and worked and now it doesn't, it has a problem and the OP is interested in finding about it. Also, the mirror will have to be taken out of the list of mirrors.
Report to admin@opensuse.org. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.4°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-03-03 22:28, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2017-03-03 20:15, John Andersen wrote:
On 03/03/2017 11:10 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2017-03-03 20:09, John Andersen wrote:
Never obsess over any given mirror. There's no reason to pick a close one. opensuse uses a round robin sort of routing anyway AFAIK.
Some people can not use that, for several reasons.
But they can pick any random mirror. There's never a reason to limit yourself to an in-country mirror, unless you live in North Korea.
Well, not any random mirror, but a defined one. Organizations that use proxying need a defined mirror, not a random one.
There are ways around that.
I was thinking of that recent thread where the IT people had to authorize the mirror to use, because otherwise the iron??? forgot the full name... Ironclad? thought that some packages are malware and blocks the download. The Linux admin had to say some mirror and stay on it.
http://wiki.jessen.ch/index/How_to_cache_openSUSE_repositories_with_Squid
Ah, yes, I remember.
All that aside, if the mirror existed and worked and now it doesn't, it has a problem and the OP is interested in finding about it. Also, the mirror will have to be taken out of the list of mirrors.
Report to admin@opensuse.org.
Yep, but not me ;-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2017-03-03 22:28, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2017-03-03 20:15, John Andersen wrote:
On 03/03/2017 11:10 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2017-03-03 20:09, John Andersen wrote:
Never obsess over any given mirror. There's no reason to pick a close one. opensuse uses a round robin sort of routing anyway AFAIK.
Some people can not use that, for several reasons.
But they can pick any random mirror. There's never a reason to limit yourself to an in-country mirror, unless you live in North Korea.
Well, not any random mirror, but a defined one. Organizations that use proxying need a defined mirror, not a random one.
There are ways around that.
I was thinking of that recent thread where the IT people had to authorize the mirror to use, because otherwise the iron??? forgot the full name... Ironclad? thought that some packages are malware and blocks the download. The Linux admin had to say some mirror and stay on it.
Very different situation. The whitelisting to circumnavigate Ironport would need one or more specific mirrors. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.4°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-03-03 23:00, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
I was thinking of that recent thread where the IT people had to authorize the mirror to use, because otherwise the iron??? forgot the full name... Ironclad? thought that some packages are malware and blocks the download. The Linux admin had to say some mirror and stay on it.
Very different situation. The whitelisting to circumnavigate Ironport would need one or more specific mirrors.
Ha, LOL. I was at a place that they blocked about everything, they opened the rest on request, probably. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
On 03/03/2017 23:24, Per Jessen wrote:
On 03/03/2017 04:21 AM, Dave Plater wrote:
ftp.up.ac.za/mirrors/opensuse/opensuse/distribution/leap/42.2 and the other unofficial one that existed since time began ftp.is.co.za/mirror/opensuse/distribution/leap/42.2/ are empty although the directory is still there. What's happened to them?
Thanks
Dave P
No, mirrorbrain attempts to find a geographically close server.
Well if mirrorbrain is responsible for the mirror list page, there's something wrong. When the mirror I was using, which I downloaded 42.1 and 42.2 from (ftp.up.ac.za), failed I looked at the mirror list and found none listed. I then looked at ftp.is.co.za which was never listed but had always been there since the days when I had a dial up modem, it also had an empty directory structure. Just now I remembered Tenet which in 12.1 days even mirrored obs but I'd changed mirrors with 42.1 because my new mirror was listed on the mirror list. Anyway Tenet still exists in both http and ftp, don't know why it isn't listed, I'm now using opensuse.mirror.ac.za . Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-03-04 12:51, Dave Plater wrote:
On 03/03/2017 23:24, Per Jessen wrote:
No, mirrorbrain attempts to find a geographically close server.
Well if mirrorbrain is responsible for the mirror list page, there's something wrong. When the mirror I was using, which I downloaded 42.1 and 42.2 from (ftp.up.ac.za), failed I looked at the mirror list and found none listed.
You have to look at the download page on a browser, like: http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.2/oss/ and click on "details" for a file. Then you get the real mirror list that mirrorbrain gives for your site and that file and this instant. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
On 04/03/2017 14:24, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2017-03-04 12:51, Dave Plater wrote:
On 03/03/2017 23:24, Per Jessen wrote:
No, mirrorbrain attempts to find a geographically close server.
Well if mirrorbrain is responsible for the mirror list page, there's something wrong. When the mirror I was using, which I downloaded 42.1 and 42.2 from (ftp.up.ac.za), failed I looked at the mirror list and found none listed. You have to look at the download page on a browser, like:
http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.2/oss/
and click on "details" for a file. Then you get the real mirror list that mirrorbrain gives for your site and that file and this instant.
Mirrors List of best mirrors for IP address 169.1.61.38, located at -34.166698,18.866699 in South Africa (ZA), network 0.0.0.0/0 (autonomous system 0). Map showing the closest mirrors Found 2 mirrors which handle this country (ZA) http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/opensuse/update/leap/42.2/oss/openSUSE:Leap:4... (de, prio 100) http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/update/leap/42.2/oss/openSUSE:Leap:42.2:Upda... (de, prio 110) This is all I get along with a long list of other mirrors and a search for .za shows nothing. Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-03-04 13:35, Dave Plater wrote:
On 04/03/2017 14:24, Carlos E. R. wrote:
You have to look at the download page on a browser, like:
http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.2/oss/
and click on "details" for a file. Then you get the real mirror list that mirrorbrain gives for your site and that file and this instant.
Mirrors
List of best mirrors for IP address 169.1.61.38, located at -34.166698,18.866699 in South Africa (ZA), network 0.0.0.0/0 (autonomous system 0).
0.0.0.0?
Map showing the closest mirrors Found 2 mirrors which handle this country (ZA)
http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/opensuse/update/leap/42.2/oss/openSUSE:Leap:4... (de, prio 100) http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/update/leap/42.2/oss/openSUSE:Leap:42.2:Upda... (de, prio 110)
This is all I get along with a long list of other mirrors and a search for .za shows nothing.
Thus they were detected as non functional and removed. I get: Mirrors ... (none) (I assume means none in my country) Found 42 mirrors in other countries, but same continent (EU) ... (list) Found 32 mirrors in other parts of the world ... (list) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
Dave Plater wrote:
On 03/03/2017 23:24, Per Jessen wrote:
On 03/03/2017 04:21 AM, Dave Plater wrote:
ftp.up.ac.za/mirrors/opensuse/opensuse/distribution/leap/42.2 and the other unofficial one that existed since time began ftp.is.co.za/mirror/opensuse/distribution/leap/42.2/ are empty although the directory is still there. What's happened to them?
Thanks
Dave P
No, mirrorbrain attempts to find a geographically close server.
Well if mirrorbrain is responsible for the mirror list page, there's something wrong.
I think the latter is maintained manually.
When the mirror I was using, which I downloaded 42.1 and 42.2 from (ftp.up.ac.za), failed I looked at the mirror list and found none listed. I then looked at ftp.is.co.za which was never listed but had always been there since the days when I had a dial up modem, it also had an empty directory structure.
Unofficial mirrors aren't listed and they sync from rsync.opensuse.org. At the time of release, they're always a little behind.
Just now I remembered Tenet which in 12.1 days even mirrored obs but I'd changed mirrors with 42.1 because my new mirror was listed on the mirror list. Anyway Tenet still exists in both http and ftp, don't know why it isn't listed, I'm now using opensuse.mirror.ac.za .
Only official, registered mirrors are listed, maybe that isn't one? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (18.1°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2017-03-04 13:35, Dave Plater wrote:
On 04/03/2017 14:24, Carlos E. R. wrote:
You have to look at the download page on a browser, like:
http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.2/oss/
and click on "details" for a file. Then you get the real mirror list that mirrorbrain gives for your site and that file and this instant.
Mirrors
List of best mirrors for IP address 169.1.61.38, located at -34.166698,18.866699 in South Africa (ZA), network 0.0.0.0/0 (autonomous system 0).
0.0.0.0?
and AS 0 - something's not right. I would report it to admin@opensuse.org. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (18.0°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/03/2017 16:10, Per Jessen wrote:
Just now I remembered Tenet which in 12.1 days even mirrored obs but I'd changed mirrors with 42.1 because my new mirror was listed on the mirror list. Anyway Tenet still exists in both http and ftp, don't know why it isn't listed, I'm now using opensuse.mirror.ac.za . Only official, registered mirrors are listed, maybe that isn't one? It used to be an official mirror, this morning it say's: Last synched: March 05 2017 04:52:41.
Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/03/2017 16:13, Per Jessen wrote:
and AS 0 - something's not right. I would report it to admin@opensuse.org.
I've sent an email to admin@opensuse.org explaining the problem, including the output from: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.2/repo/oss/ARCHIVES.gz.mir... I used my official openSUSE address davejplater@gmail.com and not my list one. Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Dave Plater wrote:
On 04/03/2017 16:10, Per Jessen wrote:
Just now I remembered Tenet which in 12.1 days even mirrored obs but I'd changed mirrors with 42.1 because my new mirror was listed on the mirror list. Anyway Tenet still exists in both http and ftp, don't know why it isn't listed, I'm now using opensuse.mirror.ac.za . Only official, registered mirrors are listed, maybe that isn't one?
It used to be an official mirror, this morning it say's: Last synched: March 05 2017 04:52:41.
If it isn't available via mirrorbrain, either it isn't official or it couldn't be validated. (afaik, mirrorbrain does some sort of check that mirrors are in working order). It doesn't appear when I look at the mirror list, no ZA mirrors at all. Mind you, I also don't get any CH mirrors either and there is at leats one. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.2°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-03-05 11:14, Per Jessen wrote:
Dave Plater wrote:
Only official, registered mirrors are listed, maybe that isn't one?
It used to be an official mirror, this morning it say's: Last synched: March 05 2017 04:52:41.
If it isn't available via mirrorbrain, either it isn't official or it couldn't be validated. (afaik, mirrorbrain does some sort of check that mirrors are in working order).
Well, that's the question. It was an official mirror, now it is not. The content disappeared. What happened to it? ftp.up.ac.za/ (university of Pretoria) is about empty, useless content. There is a readme with an email, so write them and ask. ftp.is.co.za (Internet Solutions Mirror) Directories exist, but they are empty. Example, http://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/opensuse/update/leap/42.2/oss/x86_64... or http://ftp.is.co.za/mirror/opensuse/update/leap/42.2/oss/x86_64/ Other distros are populated. There is a welcome.msg, has an email, so go there and ask. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
On 05/03/2017 15:21, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2017-03-05 11:14, Per Jessen wrote:
Dave Plater wrote:
Only official, registered mirrors are listed, maybe that isn't one?
It used to be an official mirror, this morning it say's: Last synched: March 05 2017 04:52:41.
If it isn't available via mirrorbrain, either it isn't official or it couldn't be validated. (afaik, mirrorbrain does some sort of check that mirrors are in working order).
Well, that's the question. It was an official mirror, now it is not. The content disappeared. What happened to it?
ftp.up.ac.za/ (university of Pretoria) is about empty, useless content.
There is a readme with an email, so write them and ask.
ftp.is.co.za (Internet Solutions Mirror)
Directories exist, but they are empty. Example, http://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/opensuse/update/leap/42.2/oss/x86_64... or http://ftp.is.co.za/mirror/opensuse/update/leap/42.2/oss/x86_64/
Other distros are populated.
There is a welcome.msg, has an email, so go there and ask.
I'm happy with Tenet, should never have changed, they've a full mirror of obs including home repos Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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