Charles philip Chan wrote:

Erik Jakobsen writes:

...

While ago I always used the locate command to find instances I want to look for on my system. Now it doesn't work anylonger.

Most likely the db haven't been built- IIRC is has been disabled by default for quite some time now. Check your values in /etc/sysconfig/locate. You might want to run updatedb manually for now if you don't want to wait for the cron job to kick in.

Charles

Thanks Charles. I have run updatedb since a while too, but this has not given me the opportunity. I have here some of the settings (default) from /etc/sysconfig/locate: RUN_UPDATEDB=yes RUN_UPDATEDB_AS=nobody Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Charles philip Chan wrote:

Strange, what is the output of:

,---- | ls /var/lib/locatdb `----

?

What is the output when you try to locate something?

Charles

As you probably have seen, I got it to work. Here's the output of the command after I added an "e" :-) ls /var/lib/locatedb /var/lib/locatedb Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

The Wednesday 2008-07-09 at 19:46 +0200, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

...

While ago I always used the locate command to find instances I want to look for on my system. Now it doesn't work anylonger.

It works for me.

...

What's the reason ?

You tell me... my crystal ball says it might speak if you explain the symptoms :-)

Yes I will now :-) A fellow here mentioned about the manually doing the updatedb. I have done it many times, but had no luck. Did it again, and now it works :-D Did you get it ?, else feel free to ask again mate :-P Thanks Carlos -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Charles philip Chan wrote:

Now you should investigate why the cron job is not kicking in. Is cron running? If it is, try rerunning SUSEConfig.

Charles

ps aux |grep cron root 2825 0.0 0.0 2060 588 ? Ss 17:36 0:00 /usr/sbin/cron root 5964 0.0 0.0 2116 672 pts/2 S+ 21:30 0:00 grep cron Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

does "/etc/cron.daily/suse.de-updatedb" exist?

Yes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

The Wednesday 2008-07-09 at 21:50 +0200, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

...

...

does "/etc/cron.daily/suse.de-updatedb" exist?

...

Yes

Info, give more info... like ownership and permissions of that file.

I did that because of Patrick knew what I was answering to. All other as well would be aware of the short reply, what it refered to. Had the idea to do what you suggest, but thought it was more owerwhelming and no reason for it. Aagin I made a mistake. Better to change to stamps.

What are the contents... no, run:

What do you mean "What is ..." ?.

cat /etc/sysconfig/locate | egrep -v "^[[:space:]]*$|^#"

same for "cron" above.And cChange:

SYSLOG_ON_NO_ERROR="no"

to yes. And

grep -i cron /var/log/messages

-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.

I shall save you for more timeeating writing gentlemen. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2008-07-09 at 22:49 +0200, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

...

Info, give more info... like ownership and permissions of that file.

What are the contents... no, run:

cat /etc/sysconfig/locate | egrep -v "^[[:space:]]*$|^#"

same for "cron" above.And cChange:

SYSLOG_ON_NO_ERROR="no"

to yes. And

grep -i cron /var/log/messages

- Sorry forgot this:

# cat /etc/cron.daily/suse.de-updatedb

I never said that, we all have that file; however, you did not copy the outputs of the commands I asked (see above).

erikja:~ # grep -i cron /var/log/messages Jul 6 19:20:01 erikja /usr/sbin/cron[7989]: (root) CMD (zypper --quiet up -y -t patch --skip-interactive)

Ok, nothing here (nothing bad, nothing good). - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIdT++tTMYHG2NR9URAiVOAJ4oDKlonj18U50vKO3GQMEU96dAWgCfdp1a x7+MJl1Vki9+phxe62MRRRk= =G7f4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

SYSLOG_ON_NO_ERROR="no"

to yes.

Where is "SYSLOG_ON_NO_ERROR" ? Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2008-07-09 at 23:04 +0200, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

Carlos E. R. wrote:

...

SYSLOG_ON_NO_ERROR="no"

to yes.

Where is "SYSLOG_ON_NO_ERROR" ?

If you had run the commands I asked you to run you would have seen it. Common, stop complaining and do it! I'll be waiting tomorrow. :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIdUA0tTMYHG2NR9URAkZXAJ47eknTDCGBwUyAW/ThZD+qyzB9tgCfX5cf 2H2okGFgXjSGRw0kCSphcsA= =mi5L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2008-07-10 at 06:02 +0200, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

I better have to stop here because I'm not complaining about you, as I think you tell me, that I do. Sorry if I do a mistake. And to the commands. I had not the idea to do, cause I didn't knew how to do it to see what is/was wrong.

Could you simply run the commands I sugested,, and copy here the output? Just copy paste the following lines into a terminal, one by one: ls -l /etc/cron.daily/suse.de-updatedb cat /etc/sysconfig/locate | egrep -v "^[[:space:]]*$|^#" cat /etc/sysconfig/cron | egrep -v "^[[:space:]]*$|^#" These three commands do not change anything, they just print the configuration files witout the comments.

Now I have learned, that opensue ml is mostly intended for people with more knowledge than I have. This fact is also a reason, that I maybe not ask as is the intention from time to time. Sorry for having bored you all.

The mail list is for all kinds of users. You simply have to pay a little attention: we can't do things for you, we are not there, we can't know what's the matter with your system unless you telll us what you see. So be patient :-) For instance, I suggest that, if in the output from the above commands you see: SYSLOG_ON_NO_ERROR="no" you edit the file "/etc/sysconfig/cron" and change it to yes. This, if I'm not mistaken, will make cron log its workings like this: Mar 22 01:15:22 nimrodel run-crons[557]: beagle-crawl-system: OK Mar 22 01:15:22 nimrodel su: (to news) root on none Mar 22 01:18:41 nimrodel run-crons[557]: leafnode: OK Mar 22 01:18:42 nimrodel run-crons[557]: logrotate: OK Mar 22 01:18:44 nimrodel run-crons[557]: suse-clean_catman: OK ... so that we can know when and if each individual task is being run. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIdeKNtTMYHG2NR9URAqtkAJ4z/ZneAbbcoT4uuybz/bs0ssAjRQCdFkw0 xkX2u8eMnnejItB+EiFoObY= =MXL3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2008-07-10 at 14:15 +0200, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

Sure I can here they are:

Thanks!

# ls -l /etc/cron.daily/suse.de-updatedb -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1538 Jun 6 21:44 /etc/cron.daily/suse.de-updatedb erikja:~ # cat /etc/sysconfig/locate | egrep -v "^[[:space:]]*$|^#" RUN_UPDATEDB=yes RUN_UPDATEDB_AS=nobody UPDATEDB_NETPATHS="" UPDATEDB_PRUNEPATHS="/mnt /cdrom /tmp /usr/tmp /var/tmp /var/spool /proc /media /sys" UPDATEDB_NETUSER="" UPDATEDB_PRUNEFS=""

Ok, this one looks good.

# cat /etc/sysconfig/cron | egrep -v "^[[:space:]]*$|^#" REINIT_MANDB=yes DELETE_OLD_CATMAN=yes CATMAN_ATIME=7 MAX_DAYS_IN_TMP="0" MAX_DAYS_IN_LONG_TMP="0" TMP_DIRS_TO_CLEAR="/tmp" LONG_TMP_DIRS_TO_CLEAR="" OWNER_TO_KEEP_IN_TMP="root" CLEAR_TMP_DIRS_AT_BOOTUP="no" DAILY_TIME="" MAX_NOT_RUN="5" SEND_MAIL_ON_NO_ERROR="no" SYSLOG_ON_NO_ERROR="yes"

Seems ok, too. I notice that you don't purge your /tmp dir, but that is not related. ...

...

so that we can know when and if each individual task is being run.

I see

Ok... so now, wait a day, and check the /var/log/messages file for a line like this: Mar 21 01:33:20 nimrodel run-crons[6258]: suse.de-updatedb: OK it should appear every day. If it doesn't... well, that would be the problem, I can't imagine a reason for not running, everything seems correct. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIdguYtTMYHG2NR9URAj/SAJ4qF7N5UOaGqwL/MmrCrSRbmR2qXwCgls7w 4zslsFoordsSTUuvAbQIxfM= =5gMM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

Ok... so now, wait a day, and check the /var/log/messages file for a line like this:

Mar 21 01:33:20 nimrodel run-crons[6258]: suse.de-updatedb: OK

it should appear every day. If it doesn't... well, that would be the problem, I can't imagine a reason for not running, everything seems correct.

-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.

Hi Carlos. Just a follow up: # less messages |grep suse.de-update Jul 10 08:05:46 erikja run-crons[5131]: suse.de-update-preload: OK Jul 10 08:06:42 erikja run-crons[5131]: suse.de-updatedb: OK Jul 11 08:04:30 erikja run-crons[3212]: suse.de-update-preload: OK Jul 11 08:05:21 erikja run-crons[3212]: suse.de-updatedb: OK Jul 12 20:46:28 erikja run-crons[3257]: suse.de-update-preload: OK Jul 12 20:47:24 erikja run-crons[3257]: suse.de-updatedb: OK Jul 13 20:45:43 erikja run-crons[9421]: suse.de-update-preload: OK Jul 13 20:46:45 erikja run-crons[9421]: suse.de-updatedb: OK Jul 14 20:45:36 erikja run-crons[8940]: suse.de-update-preload: OK Jul 14 20:46:29 erikja run-crons[8940]: suse.de-updatedb: OK Jul 15 20:50:04 erikja run-crons[6845]: suse.de-update-preload: OK Jul 15 20:51:17 erikja run-crons[6845]: suse.de-updatedb: OK Regards Erik -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

Well, that's good, it's working :-)

-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.

Yes it does, very nice. Thanks again for your help -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

The Wednesday 2008-07-09 at 21:15 +0200, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

...

...

...

Now it doesn't work anylonger.

It works for me.

...

What's the reason ?

You tell me... my crystal ball says it might speak if you explain the symptoms :-)

...

Yes I will now :-)

...

A fellow here mentioned about the manually doing the updatedb. I have done it many times, but had no luck. Did it again, and now it works :-D Did you get it ?, else feel free to ask again mate :-P

Next time explain what you mean by "not working"; till you do we can't really help :-)

-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.

I will try to make it very short. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Erik Jakobsen [07-09-08 13:48]:

...

While ago I always used the locate command to find instances I want to look for on my system. Now it doesn't work anylonger.

You mean it stopped working, or you installed a new system and it's not there now?

I mean, that I recognized once under 10.3, that it didn't work. But as you probably have read, I got the manually updatedb advice. Now it works.

...

What's the reason ?

Which thousand would you prefer?

:-)

...

I have used the find command since I recognized the lack.

rather heavy handed substitute.

...

Is it ok or am I missing anything ?

it is "ok", and you may or may not be missing anything. Do you have aroundtuit? If not you *are* missing something.

ps: suspecting you have a new install, did you install findutils-locate as it is not installed w/o direction?

yes 11.0 but b4 10.3, but it works now.

ps2: You ask a lot w/o giving many details. I hear a grinding sound when I apply the brakes on my vehicle. What might it be?

I try to make my askings as short as possible. Don't really understand that about the meaning of " the grinding .." But many do understand what I mean, and that's the case. It can be difficult to write so all understand what is written. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Erik Jakobsen [07-09-08 15:28]:

...

...

I try to make my askings as short as possible.

a comendable trait, but "short as possible" implies that your askings still include that "which is necessary to define your 'askings'". And you did *not*!

Obviously you mean in general I think. Why haven't you said that before. I have been here since many years?

...

Don't really understand that about the meaning of " the grinding .."

you have *never* heard a grinding sound when brakes were applied?

Yes I have, but this time you mean not that precisely.

...

But many do understand what I mean, and that's the case.

No, many guessed and then tried to answer. They did not *understand.

Have they told you that ?.

...

It can be difficult to write so all understand what is written.

Very true, but in the best interests of the asker to attempt to do so.

very true -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

...

Have they told you that ?.

No need, it is obvious :-P

Now it's bedtime. I'll try if I can sleep due to the for me sad inputs. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 09 July 2008 17:20, James Knott wrote:

Erik Jakobsen wrote:

...

...

Is it ok or am I missing anything ?

You probably forgot to install it. I think the package is called find-utils or similar.

Close. On 10.0: % rpm -qa |egrep locate findutils-locate-4.2.23-5.4 On 10.3: % rpm -qa |egrep locate kio-locate-0.4.5-111 findutils-locate-4.2.31-24 Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

James Knott wrote:

You probably forgot to install it. I think the package is called find-utils or similar.

Thanks James for you reply. It was installed, but there were things I have forgotten to do I have learned from Carlos and Patrick. Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org