[opensuse] (TO?) Handy vs Festnet ???
Hi all, I just had a odd thing happen. I was on my landline talking when my handy (cell phone) rung. When I answered the handy my landline went to hell. Nothing but buzz and popps. I walked away about 2 meters and my landline was ok. Is this normal? JIM -- Jim Hatridge Linux User #88484 Ebay ID: WartHogBulletin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Hatridge wrote:
Hi all,
I just had a odd thing happen. I was on my landline talking when my handy (cell phone) rung. When I answered the handy my landline went to hell. Nothing but buzz and popps. I walked away about 2 meters and my landline was ok. Is this normal?
No it sounds like the radio transmission from the cell phone is interfering with the landline or phone. There are laws to stop that! You've probably got a 'dry' solder joint in the phone or a cracked wire in the landline. Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
HI Dave et al, On Thursday 28 May 2009 11:47:39 Dave Howorth wrote:
James Hatridge wrote:
Hi all,
I just had a odd thing happen. I was on my landline talking when my handy (cell phone) rung. When I answered the handy my landline went to hell. Nothing but buzz and popps. I walked away about 2 meters and my landline was ok. Is this normal?
No it sounds like the radio transmission from the cell phone is interfering with the landline or phone. There are laws to stop that!
You've probably got a 'dry' solder joint in the phone or a cracked wire in the landline.
Cheers, Dave
This would not surprise me. Both phones are cheap and the landline phone is old on top. JIM -- Jim Hatridge Linux User #88484 Ebay ID: WartHogBulletin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dave Howorth wrote:
James Hatridge wrote:
Hi all,
I just had a odd thing happen. I was on my landline talking when my handy (cell phone) rung. When I answered the handy my landline went to hell. Nothing but buzz and popps. I walked away about 2 meters and my landline was ok. Is this normal?
No it sounds like the radio transmission from the cell phone is interfering with the landline or phone. There are laws to stop that!
Cell phones put out the authorized signals, near or in the microwave spectrum, depending on band in use. Audio devices, such as telephones are not supposed to be sensitive to radio frequency energy, such as that produced by cell phones. Proper filtering and/or shielding in the phone will reduce or eliminate the problem, but is often not done, in the interest of saving money. There is nothing that can be done to the cell phone to stop that, regardless whether it's putting out a spurious signal or not. The problem has nothing to do with the cell phone and everything to do with the construction of the phone, though a you mentioned, it could be a bad connection in the land line phone. Again, it has nothing to do with the cell phone. It is possible for a cell phone to interfere with other users of the radio spectrum and the applicable laws specify allowable output of the cell phone to reduce that. BTW a few words about my background. I studied electrical engineering (communications systems) in college and have had my amateur radio license for 37 years. I have also worked in the telecommunications industry, in a technical position, for much of that time. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dave Howorth wrote:
James Hatridge wrote:
Hi all,
I just had a odd thing happen. I was on my landline talking when my handy (cell phone) rung. When I answered the handy my landline went to hell. Nothing but buzz and popps. I walked away about 2 meters and my landline was ok. Is this normal?
No it sounds like the radio transmission from the cell phone is interfering with the landline or phone. There are laws to stop that!
You've probably got a 'dry' solder joint in the phone or a cracked wire in the landline.
Cheers, Dave
Or if the landline phone is cordless, the cellphone may be jamming the landline phone. If you do have a cordless landline phone, try plugging in a direct connect phone handset, and see if it is reproducible. The cellphone may just be doing what it is supposed to do and the cordless may be sensitive to its normal operation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Hatridge wrote:
Hi all,
I just had a odd thing happen. I was on my landline talking when my handy (cell phone) rung. When I answered the handy my landline went to hell. Nothing but buzz and popps. I walked away about 2 meters and my landline was ok. Is this normal?
JIM
It is quite common for cell phones to interfere with audio devices, including telephones. This is due to deficiencies in the audio devices being interfered with. These devices are not supposed to be sensitive to radio frequency energy, but often are, due to inadequate filtering & shielding. In fact, just yesterday, I heard similar on the TV news. The reporter was using her cell phone, while on camera. You could hear the interference to the audio. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 28 May 2009, James Hatridge wrote:
Hi all,
I just had a odd thing happen. I was on my landline talking when my handy (cell phone) rung. When I answered the handy my landline went to hell. Nothing but buzz and popps. I walked away about 2 meters and my landline was ok. Is this normal?
JIM
What sort of landline *PHONE* were you using? If cordless, .. yes, that is indeed a possibility. Lee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
L. V. Lammert wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2009, James Hatridge wrote:
Hi all,
I just had a odd thing happen. I was on my landline talking when my handy (cell phone) rung. When I answered the handy my landline went to hell. Nothing but buzz and popps. I walked away about 2 meters and my landline was ok. Is this normal?
JIM
What sort of landline *PHONE* were you using? If cordless, .. yes, that is indeed a possibility.
Lee
Another possibility with a cordless landline (besides basic defectiveness and/or weak specifications) is if the battery is partially discharged and/or going defective, the lower available wattage could cause the phone's built-in H/W based filtering to start to go "in the tank". Result would also be in line with what you are seeing, and I have observed a similar effect in the past, when one of my cordless phones took a gradual dive. HTH, Dan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi Lee et al, On Thursday 28 May 2009 15:51:37 L. V. Lammert wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2009, James Hatridge wrote:
Hi all,
I just had a odd thing happen. I was on my landline talking when my handy (cell phone) rung. When I answered the handy my landline went to hell. Nothing but buzz and popps. I walked away about 2 meters and my landline was ok. Is this normal?
JIM
What sort of landline *PHONE* were you using? If cordless, .. yes, that is indeed a possibility.
Lee
Its an old cheap phone I got about 10 years ago. It cost me 26DM (~13$US). Over the years I've cut the line and added about 10m to it. I wonder if where I cut it could be the problem. Plus its been dropped and banged around. For the price its a good phone! :) JIM -- Jim Hatridge Linux User #88484 Ebay ID: WartHogBulletin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday May 28 2009, James Hatridge wrote:
Hi Lee et al,
On Thursday 28 May 2009 15:51:37 L. V. Lammert wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2009, James Hatridge wrote:
Hi all,
I just had a odd thing happen. I was on my landline talking when my handy (cell phone) rung. When I answered the handy my landline went to hell. Nothing but buzz and popps. I walked away about 2 meters and my landline was ok. Is this normal?
JIM
What sort of landline *PHONE* were you using? If cordless, .. yes, that is indeed a possibility.
Lee
Its an old cheap phone I got about 10 years ago. It cost me 26DM (~13$US). Over the years I've cut the line and added about 10m to it. I wonder if where I cut it could be the problem. Plus its been dropped and banged around. For the price its a good phone! :)
Is the shielding in the portion of cord you added comparable to that in the original cord?
JIM
Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi all! On Thursday 28 May 2009 18:11:02 Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Thursday May 28 2009, James Hatridge wrote:
Hi Lee et al,
On Thursday 28 May 2009 15:51:37 L. V. Lammert wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2009, James Hatridge wrote:
Hi all,
I just had a odd thing happen. I was on my landline talking when my handy (cell phone) rung. When I answered the handy my landline went to hell. Nothing but buzz and popps. I walked away about 2 meters and my landline was ok. Is this normal?
JIM
What sort of landline *PHONE* were you using? If cordless, .. yes, that is indeed a possibility.
Lee
Its an old cheap phone I got about 10 years ago. It cost me 26DM (~13$US). Over the years I've cut the line and added about 10m to it. I wonder if where I cut it could be the problem. Plus its been dropped and banged around. For the price its a good phone! :)
Is the shielding in the portion of cord you added comparable to that in the original cord?
JIM
Randall Schulz
Yes, the cable was phone cable. Now we need to take this off list. I just got a nasty note from one of the list's NetNazis. :) JIM -- Jim Hatridge Linux User #88484 Ebay ID: WartHogBulletin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Thursday May 28 2009, James Hatridge wrote:
Hi Lee et al,
On Thursday 28 May 2009 15:51:37 L. V. Lammert wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2009, James Hatridge wrote:
Hi all,
I just had a odd thing happen. I was on my landline talking when my handy (cell phone) rung. When I answered the handy my landline went to hell. Nothing but buzz and popps. I walked away about 2 meters and my landline was ok. Is this normal?
JIM
What sort of landline *PHONE* were you using? If cordless, .. yes, that is indeed a possibility.
Lee
Its an old cheap phone I got about 10 years ago. It cost me 26DM (~13$US). Over the years I've cut the line and added about 10m to it. I wonder if where I cut it could be the problem. Plus its been dropped and banged around. For the price its a good phone! :)
Is the shielding in the portion of cord you added comparable to that in the original cord?
Ordinary phone cord does not have any shielding. It doesn't even use twisted pairs. Regardless, good cable or not, many phones will detect cell phones. What's happening is something in the phone is detecting (rectifying) the cell phone signal. The noise you here is the pulsing of the cell phone transmitter. This problem wouldn't be so noticeable with the old analog cell phones. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday May 28 2009, James Hatridge wrote:
Hi Lee et al,
On Thursday 28 May 2009 15:51:37 L. V. Lammert wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2009, James Hatridge wrote:
Hi all,
I just had a odd thing happen. I was on my landline talking when my handy (cell phone) rung. When I answered the handy my landline went to hell. Nothing but buzz and popps. I walked away about 2 meters and my landline was ok. Is this normal?
JIM
What sort of landline *PHONE* were you using? If cordless, .. yes, that is indeed a possibility.
Lee
Its an old cheap phone I got about 10 years ago. It cost me 26DM (~13$US). Over the years I've cut the line and added about 10m to it. I wonder if where I cut it could be the problem. Plus its been dropped and banged around. For the price its a good phone! :)
Also, were their chokes in the original cord? And if so, did you add your extension inside those chokes? (By "inside" I mean betwen the chokes, not between a choke and (what had been) the end of the cord. In other words, if there were chokes at the ends (or either end), are they still at the ends of the cord?
JIM
Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
L. V. Lammert wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2009, James Hatridge wrote:
Hi all,
I just had a odd thing happen. I was on my landline talking when my handy (cell phone) rung. When I answered the handy my landline went to hell. Nothing but buzz and popps. I walked away about 2 meters and my landline was ok. Is this normal?
JIM
What sort of landline *PHONE* were you using? If cordless, .. yes, that is indeed a possibility.
Lee
You can hear that even on a wired phone. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Dan Goodman
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Dave Howorth
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James Hatridge
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James Knott
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L. V. Lammert
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Randall R Schulz