Having doggedly made the transition from Windoz, there are only a couple of things more that I need in apps, one of them is a basic accounting program that is a little more functional (ie flexibility with respect to online downloads from banking institutions) than either gnucash or kmoney. Previous to this all my basic needs were filled via Quicken. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Rem
* Rem P Roberti (remegius@comcast.net) [040128 16:08]:
Having doggedly made the transition from Windoz, there are only a couple of things more that I need in apps, one of them is a basic accounting program that is a little more functional (ie flexibility with respect to online downloads from banking institutions) than either gnucash or kmoney. Previous to this all my basic needs were filled via Quicken. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
You can either get CXOffice from Codeweavers which lets you run that copy of Quicken you have. Or you can check out Moneydance which I used for about 3 years. I recently switched to Quicken 2004 for OSX because I bought a Powerbook. But I still have Moneydance installed on my SUSE box and it works. I've just been using the Powerbook more and sshing into the Linux box for other stuff. In any event Moneydance is a good deal. -- Ben Rosenberg ---===--- #147972 ---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org -- Why do we bother with a suicide watch when someone is on death row? " Keep an eye on this guy. We're gonna kill him, and we don't want him to hurt himself."
I assume that for income tax programs one still has to resort to Windows -- right? I know there are Web-based tax programs, but that's an inferior solution. Paul Abrahams
On Wednesday 28 January 2004 6:59 pm, Rem P Roberti wrote:
Having doggedly made the transition from Windoz, there are only a couple of things more that I need in apps, one of them is a basic accounting program that is a little more functional (ie flexibility with respect to online downloads from banking institutions) than either gnucash or kmoney. Previous to this all my basic needs were filled via Quicken. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
I've been using MoneyDance for over 3 years, and have not had it fail once! $29 is the registration cost, and there's an elist and forum. Fred -- "...Linux, MS-DOS, and Windows XP (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly)."
On Wednesday 28 January 2004 10:51 pm, Fred Miller wrote:
On Wednesday 28 January 2004 6:59 pm, Rem P Roberti wrote:
Having doggedly made the transition from Windoz, there are only a couple of things more that I need in apps, one of them is a basic accounting program that is a little more functional (ie flexibility with respect to online downloads from banking institutions) than either gnucash or kmoney. Previous to this all my basic needs were filled via Quicken. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
I've been using MoneyDance for over 3 years, and have not had it fail once! $29 is the registration cost, and there's an elist and forum.
Fred
Moneydance looked good to me but the showstopper was that if I wanted to print (and mail) a check to Joe Dobbs in the next town, I had to make an entry in the address book for him first... couldn't just fill in the address on the check and print it. Probably 50% of my checks would be fill-ins and all of my checks get mailed using window envelopes. MD looked *really* good.... guess I should lobby for a change...... -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh@bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 01/29/04 09:43 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "All the world's a stage and the people on it are poorly rehearsed."
On Wednesday 28 January 2004 10:51 pm, Fred Miller wrote:
I've been using MoneyDance for over 3 years, and have not had it fail once! $29 is the registration cost, and there's an elist and forum.
Can MoneyDance download from the same banks and credit card companies that Quicken does? Paul Abrahams
Having doggedly made the transition from Windoz, there are only a couple of things more that I need in apps, one of them is a basic accounting program that is a little more functional (ie flexibility with respect to online downloads from banking institutions) than either gnucash or kmoney. Previous to this all my basic needs were filled via Quicken. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Rem I asked the exact same question a few months ago and although folk
Hi Rem, Rem P Roberti wrote: provided me with all the linux financial app names etc, I am still a Quicken user. I am afraid, for me, linux doesn't provide anything like the Quicken functionality and appearance, ease of use etc. I am a dedicated Quicken user for the last 10 years and whilst I would like to change to a linux alternative, after reviewing MyMoney, MoneyDance and Gnucash, I found it was better to keep either a dual boot machine or a separate Windows machine available just for Quicken. sure the Windows software might need reloading every 6-12 months but hell, its financial records and until a linux alternative can import directly from Quicken backup files and also look the same, I am afraid, for me, Quicken will remain. Now whilst you may get the impression that Quicken can't be run under linux, don't be fooled. I have heard of a few quicken stalwarts using it via the CrossOver Wine app as well. So it isn't impossible to run on linux, I have just not got around to doing it that way yet. -- The Little Helper ======================================================================== Hylton Conacher - Licenced ex-Windows user (apart from Quicken) Registered Linux user # 229959 at http://counter.li.org Using SuSE 9.0 with KDE 3.1 ========================================================================
Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
Rem
I asked the exact same question a few months ago and although folk provided me with all the linux financial app names etc, I am still a Quicken user. I am afraid, for me, linux doesn't provide anything like the Quicken functionality and appearance, ease of use etc.
I am a dedicated Quicken user for the last 10 years and whilst I would like to change to a linux alternative, after reviewing MyMoney, MoneyDance and Gnucash, I found it was better to keep either a dual boot machine or a separate Windows machine available just for Quicken. sure the Windows software might need reloading every 6-12 months but hell, its financial records and until a linux alternative can import directly from Quicken backup files and also look the same, I am afraid, for me, Quicken will remain.
Now whilst you may get the impression that Quicken can't be run under linux, don't be fooled. I have heard of a few quicken stalwarts using it via the CrossOver Wine app as well. So it isn't impossible to run on linux, I have just not got around to doing it that way yet.
Hylton, Interestingly, I stuck with Gnucash and actually have it working, although I'm not sure for how long. It's a double entry system, and I'm not used to moving things from one account to another. The program did let me import directly from my Microsoft Money program, and I have also successfully imported data from my bank. We'll see whether or not I can continue to deal with the learning curve. Linux is installed on a dedicated hard drive, and I can switch back and forth via reboot. But I'm trying to get to the point where that isn't necessary. I may almost be there. The only thing remaining is to get graphics capabilities. GIMP is good, but unfortunately the scanner that I'm using is new and unsupported. 73s Rem (WA6CJK)
On Fri January 30 2004 11:01 am, Rem P Roberti wrote:
Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
Rem
I asked the exact same question a few months ago and although folk provided me with all the linux financial app names etc, I am still a Quicken user. I am afraid, for me, linux doesn't provide anything like the Quicken functionality and appearance, ease of use etc.
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Now whilst you may get the impression that Quicken can't be run under linux, don't be fooled. I have heard of a few quicken stalwarts using it via the CrossOver Wine app as well. So it isn't impossible to run on linux, I have just not got around to doing it that way yet.
Hylton,
Interestingly, I stuck with Gnucash and actually have it working, although I'm not sure for how long. It's a double entry system, and I'm not used to moving things from one account to another. The program did <snip> Rem (WA6CJK)
I too use Quicken, but only for relatively simple, personal stuff: checkbook, money mkt, three savings accts...like that. I tried it on COO and found it ok. My one complaint was that I could not set up another program: PocketQuicken at the same time. This allows HotSync between Quicken and Palm device. "Could not" here means I took only minimal effort, failed and returned to VMW w/Quicken, PocketQuicken as the lone Win survivors on my box. I thought I found that I could sync the data through several steps and some command line entries with coldsync, but that was not "easy enough" to draw me from my last Win holdout. If I could hotsync, in jpilot, with PocketQuicken happening at the same time, syncing Quicken data, then I am finally gone from all Win dependancy. My two cents worth (which in 1958 dollars is...) Richard
On Friday 30 January 2004 02:01 pm, Rem P Roberti wrote:
Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
Rem
I asked the exact same question a few months ago and although folk provided me with all the linux financial app names etc, I am still a Quicken user. I am afraid, for me, linux doesn't provide anything like the Quicken functionality and appearance, ease of use etc. [...]
Hylton, ----------------------- Interestingly, I stuck with Gnucash and actually have it working, although I'm not sure for how long. It's a double entry system, and I'm not used to moving things from one account to another. The program did let me import directly from my Microsoft Money program, and I have also successfully imported data from my bank. We'll see whether or not I can continue to deal with the learning curve. Linux is installed on a dedicated hard drive, and I can switch back and forth via reboot. But I'm trying to get to the point where that isn't necessary. I may almost be there. The only thing remaining is to get graphics capabilities. GIMP is good, but unfortunately the scanner that I'm using is new and unsupported.
73s
Rem (WA6CJK) ================= PLCash Has anyone taken a look at the PLCash program? I know several have mentioned looking for a good personal finance program for Linux and with this one written in Java, it should provide a multi-platform solution. I have downloaded it, but not tested or played yet. I don't recall anyone mentioning it before, but thought others might be interested, especially those wanting to move from Windows.
Here is the site: http://www.arachnoid.com/index.html Lee -- --- KMail v1.6 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.0 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
On Friday 30 January 2004 11:58 pm, BandiPat wrote: [snip]
PLCash Has anyone taken a look at the PLCash program? I know several have mentioned looking for a good personal finance program for Linux and with this one written in Java, it should provide a multi-platform solution. I have downloaded it, but not tested or played yet. I don't recall anyone mentioning it before, but thought others might be interested, especially those wanting to move from Windows.
Here is the site: http://www.arachnoid.com/index.html
Thanks - hadn't seen it. Fred -- "...Linux, MS-DOS, and Windows XP (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly)."
On Saturday 31 January 2004 04:58 am, BandiPat wrote:
Has anyone taken a look at the PLCash program? I know several have mentioned looking for a good personal finance program for Linux and with this one written in Java, it should provide a multi-platform solution. I have downloaded it, but not tested or played yet. I don't recall anyone mentioning it before, but thought others might be interested, especially those wanting to move from Windows.
I just started looking at it a couple of days ago.. Looks good and is pretty intuitive. Was a dream to install and startup. You can start it from the command line and then it has a feature to make a shortcut/shadow/link to the desktop if you want. Will import .qif from my bank so is looking real good so far. It's not as complicated as Gnucash or Quicken but seems to do all the basic stuff ok. It certainly is worth looking into. Richard
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From: Richard Atcheson
I just started looking at it a couple of days ago.. Looks good and is pretty intuitive. Was a dream to install and startup. You can start it from the command line and then it has a feature to make a shortcut/shadow/link to the desktop if you want. Will import .qif from my bank so is looking real good so far. It's not as complicated as Gnucash or Quicken but seems to do all the basic stuff ok.
It certainly is worth looking into. Richard
I also looked at this and it is quite good for basic stuff. check book and savings. As far as tracking investments it still needs a lot of work such as being able to download prices from the internet and track different funds from the same mutual fund in the same account. Even though you have different funds in the same account it treats all of the shares as being from one fund for calculating the total value of the account which id taken from the price of the last entered fund, not to good. Ken
Richard Atcheson wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2004 04:58 am, BandiPat wrote:
Has anyone taken a look at the PLCash program? I know several have mentioned looking for a good personal finance program for Linux and with this one written in Java, it should provide a multi-platform solution. I have downloaded it, but not tested or played yet. I don't recall anyone mentioning it before, but thought others might be interested, especially those wanting to move from Windows.
I just started looking at it a couple of days ago.. Looks good and is pretty intuitive. Was a dream to install and startup. You can start it from the command line and then it has a feature to make a shortcut/shadow/link to the desktop if you want. Will import .qif from my bank so is looking real good so far. It's not as complicated as Gnucash or Quicken but seems to do all the basic stuff ok.
It certainly is worth looking into. Richard
To All: How does one install a .jar program? Sounds funny, but I have had no trouble with .rpm's. I have just never run into a .jar program before.
On Wednesday 03 March 2004 11:34 am, John Boyle wrote:
To All: How does one install a .jar program? Sounds funny, but I have had no trouble with .rpm's. I have just never run into a .jar program before.
It's unbelievably simple.Download the jar file, put it somewhere ( i put mine in a directory /home/richard/JavaJar, Then -assuming you already have Java installed, go the a command line and type: cd /home/whereveryouhaveit/JavaJar/ ; java -jar PLCash.jar And there it was. Almost makes you like Java! To make the use even easier I made a link to Application on the desktop and put the above line as the Command for the app. Nothing to it. Richard
Richard Atcheson wrote:
On Wednesday 03 March 2004 11:34 am, John Boyle wrote:
To All: How does one install a .jar program? Sounds funny, but I have had no trouble with .rpm's. I have just never run into a .jar program before.
It's unbelievably simple.Download the jar file, put it somewhere ( i put mine in a directory /home/richard/JavaJar, Then -assuming you already have Java installed, go the a command line and type: cd /home/whereveryouhaveit/JavaJar/ ; java -jar PLCash.jar
And there it was. Almost makes you like Java!
To make the use even easier I made a link to Application on the desktop and put the above line as the Command for the app. Nothing to it. Richard
To Richard, et al: Problem is I have PLCash.jar on the home directory. Right now my home directory reads /home/OldSarge and then in the window has about 6 directories, one being PLCash.jar. NOW how do I get it to install?
* John Boyle
To Richard, et al: Problem is I have PLCash.jar on the home directory. Right now my home directory reads /home/OldSarge and then in the window has about 6 directories, one being PLCash.jar. NOW how do I get it to install?
It is installed. All that is necessary is the PLCash.jar file and your java system. To execute the program, cd to /home/OldSarge and give the command: java -jar PLCash.jar -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:11:18PM -0800, John Boyle wrote:
Richard Atcheson wrote:
On Wednesday 03 March 2004 11:34 am, John Boyle wrote:
To All: How does one install a .jar program? Sounds funny, but I have had no trouble with .rpm's. I have just never run into a .jar program before.
It's unbelievably simple.Download the jar file, put it somewhere ( i put mine in a directory /home/richard/JavaJar, Then -assuming you already have Java installed, go the a command line and type: cd /home/whereveryouhaveit/JavaJar/ ; java -jar PLCash.jar
And there it was. Almost makes you like Java!
To make the use even easier I made a link to Application on the desktop and put the above line as the Command for the app.
I just installed it and noticed an option button that will create the link for you. -- Daryl Lee Open the present--it's a gift.
Daryl Lee wrote:
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:11:18PM -0800, John Boyle wrote:
Richard Atcheson wrote:
On Wednesday 03 March 2004 11:34 am, John Boyle wrote:
To All: How does one install a .jar program? Sounds funny, but I have had no trouble with .rpm's. I have just never run into a .jar program before.
It's unbelievably simple.Download the jar file, put it somewhere ( i put mine in a directory /home/richard/JavaJar, Then -assuming you already have Java installed, go the a command line and type: cd /home/whereveryouhaveit/JavaJar/ ; java -jar PLCash.jar
And there it was. Almost makes you like Java!
To make the use even easier I made a link to Application on the desktop and put the above line as the Command for the app.
I just installed it and noticed an option button that will create the link for you.
To all: As one of you said, it was already installed, just had to activate by command. I also got the icon for it on my desktop, and will be working with it tomorrow. Thanks all!
Daryl Lee wrote:
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:11:18PM -0800, John Boyle wrote:
Richard Atcheson wrote:
On Wednesday 03 March 2004 11:34 am, John Boyle wrote:
To All: How does one install a .jar program? Sounds funny, but I have had no trouble with .rpm's. I have just never run into a .jar program before.
It's unbelievably simple.Download the jar file, put it somewhere ( i put mine in a directory /home/richard/JavaJar, Then -assuming you already have Java installed, go the a command line and type: cd /home/whereveryouhaveit/JavaJar/ ; java -jar PLCash.jar
And there it was. Almost makes you like Java!
To make the use even easier I made a link to Application on the desktop and put the above line as the Command for the app.
I just installed it and noticed an option button that will create the link for you.
To All: When entering data in PLCash, how does one get it to save the data? How does one reconcile using a bank statement, when all your data disappears when you leave that screen? Finally, how does one get a browser to take when the "continue" button stays greyed out , yet shows you have 2 browsers above it?
On Wednesday 03 March 2004 11:34, John Boyle wrote:
Richard Atcheson wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2004 04:58 am, BandiPat wrote:
Has anyone taken a look at the PLCash program? I know several have mentioned looking for a good personal finance program for Linux and with this one written in Java, it should provide a multi-platform solution. I have downloaded it, but not tested or played yet. I don't recall anyone mentioning it before, but thought others might be interested, especially those wanting to move from Windows.
I just started looking at it a couple of days ago.. Looks good and is pretty intuitive. Was a dream to install and startup. You can start it from the command line and then it has a feature to make a shortcut/shadow/link to the desktop if you want. Will import .qif from my bank so is looking real good so far. It's not as complicated as Gnucash or Quicken but seems to do all the basic stuff ok.
It certainly is worth looking into. Richard
To All: How does one install a .jar program? Sounds funny, but I have had no trouble with .rpm's. I have just never run into a .jar program before. I use Moneydance, myself, and complete installation instructions are on the site. It is not free, but it is good ...and updates are free. License is for as many machines as you can stuff in your home. <G> -- ...CH SuSE Is All U Need Linux user# 313696 Linux box# 199365
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