Seems that because of the recession, a number of cost-conscious businesses are swithching to Linux. May the recession last as long as possible....
Rich3800@aol.com wrote:
Seems that because of the recession, a number of cost-conscious businesses are swithching to Linux. May the recession last as long as possible....
I like linux and all....but recessions suck! I want this recession to finish...I think most if not all of the laid off workers in the US or for that matter the world would tell you that.
On Sun, 2003-05-11 at 20:43, Oskar Teran wrote:
Rich3800@aol.com wrote:
Seems that because of the recession, a number of cost-conscious businesses are swithching to Linux. May the recession last as long as possible....
I like linux and all....but recessions suck! I want this recession to finish...I think most if not all of the laid off workers in the US or for that matter the world would tell you that.
hear hear
The 03.05.11 at 13:57, Rich3800@aol.com wrote:
Seems that because of the recession, a number of cost-conscious businesses are swithching to Linux. May the recession last as long as possible....
You say that because you have not being hit: I have, badly :-( -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On Fri, 2003-05-23 at 14:34, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The 03.05.11 at 13:57, Rich3800@aol.com wrote:
Seems that because of the recession, a number of cost-conscious businesses are swithching to Linux. May the recession last as long as possible....
You say that because you have not being hit: I have, badly :-(
Yep, and another line of thought: More money to spend usually equates to more experiments, so in a good economy wouldn't Linux still be considered? Perhaps even more? Matt
* Matthew Johnson (matthew@psychohorse.com) [030524 10:07]: ->On Fri, 2003-05-23 at 14:34, Carlos E. R. wrote: ->> The 03.05.11 at 13:57, Rich3800@aol.com wrote: ->> ->> > Seems that because of the recession, a number of cost-conscious businesses ->> > are swithching to Linux. May the recession last as long as possible.... ->> ->> You say that because you have not being hit: I have, badly :-( -> ->Yep, and another line of thought: More money to spend usually equates to ->more experiments, so in a good economy wouldn't Linux still be ->considered? Perhaps even more? That is sort of debatable. One of the reasons that my work is talking about Linux is that we can get 3X the hardware going with X86 vs sticking with Sun hardware. But due to a lot of factors.. including the FUD letter the PHB's got from SCO..this project is on hold for 6 months. -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other going in the opposite direction.
->Yep, and another line of thought: More money to spend usually equates to ->more experiments, so in a good economy wouldn't Linux still be ->considered? Perhaps even more?
That is sort of debatable. One of the reasons that my work is talking about Linux is that we can get 3X the hardware going with X86 vs sticking with Sun hardware. But due to a lot of factors.. including the FUD letter the PHB's got from SCO..this project is on hold for 6 months.
Ya, the other thing to consider is that when there's more "expendable" money it tends to fullfil it's name sake. In otherwords it get expended. I often wonder if the economy didn't take a dump a couple years ago where Linux and OSS would be. I'm not saying that development would have ceased, but would it have been so robust? Would IBM and others have have put the amount of support behind Linux that they presently? On the issue of your company put a 6 month hold on implimenting a possible Linux solution, I can't help but think that this is exactly what one of SCOs primary objective is - to skew the market and milk all they can out of the immenent obsoletion of their IPs worth. Cheers, Curtis.
* Curtis Rey (crrey@charter.net) [030524 12:00]: -> ->Ya, the other thing to consider is that when there's more "expendable" money ->it tends to fullfil it's name sake. In otherwords it get expended. I often ->wonder if the economy didn't take a dump a couple years ago where Linux and ->OSS would be. Well, for a long time the money spent on Sun equipment was spent because of some .com crazy or because it was expendable. It was spent because Sun boxes and Solaris were the only thing powerful enough to build our Shared Hosting platform on which was started in 1995. Now that's not really the case since we have Linux on the Opteron. :) ->On the issue of your company put a 6 month hold on implementing a possible ->Linux solution, I can't help but think that this is exactly what one of SCOs ->primary objective is - to skew the market and milk all they can out of the ->immenent obsoletion of their IPs worth. Yes, this was one of the reasons. Because of the crap with SCO the VP of my dept didn't feel like fighting with the PHB's about it. Were gonna let it blow over because we have many, many more things on our plate right now...such as moving an entire DC full of equipment to another DC so that the building we're in now can be shutdown. We have to much space so were shoring that up. It's a simple case of lots of factors hitting at once. :) This doesn't mean that our developers aren't still working on the port of our technology to Linux. It just means we won't be spending the 5.5 million dollars we were going to spend on new hardware right now..and we won't deploy until the move is over. :) Believe NO one in my dept believes this SCO crap will kill Linux or hurt it's adoption much. It may cause a pause but then again these things happen. Cheers. -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other going in the opposite direction.
On Saturday 24 May 2003 01:29 pm, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
* Curtis Rey (crrey@charter.net) [030524 12:00]: -> ->Ya, the other thing to consider is that when there's more "expendable" money ->it tends to fullfil it's name sake. In otherwords it get expended. I often ->wonder if the economy didn't take a dump a couple years ago where Linux and ->OSS would be.
Well, for a long time the money spent on Sun equipment was spent because of some .com crazy or because it was expendable. It was spent because Sun boxes and Solaris were the only thing powerful enough to build our Shared Hosting platform on which was started in 1995. Now that's not really the case since we have Linux on the Opteron. :)
Understood and it makes sense.
->On the issue of your company put a 6 month hold on implementing a possible ->Linux solution, I can't help but think that this is exactly what one of SCOs ->primary objective is - to skew the market and milk all they can out of the ->immenent obsoletion of their IPs worth.
Yes, this was one of the reasons. Because of the crap with SCO the VP of my dept didn't feel like fighting with the PHB's about it. Were gonna let it blow over because we have many, many more things on our plate right now...such as moving an entire DC full of equipment to another DC so that the building we're in now can be shutdown. We have to much space so were shoring that up. It's a simple case of lots of factors hitting at once. :) This doesn't mean that our developers aren't still working on the port of our technology to Linux. It just means we won't be spending the 5.5 million dollars we were going to spend on new hardware right now..and we won't deploy until the move is over. :)
That's very encouraging to hear. I don't have insite into the workings of most descent sized IT departments. And often the only info I get is aimed at the suits.
Believe NO one in my dept believes this SCO crap will kill Linux or hurt it's adoption much. It may cause a pause but then again these things happen.
Ya, that's my take also. I mean let's face it Linux is here to stay. It is too big and provides one thing that this whole industry has been screaming for over the past few years - a return to the type of freedom to create and utilize the power of this technology. The corporations of many of the biggest companies only what to control things. This doesn't foster any new innovations or progress. My other take on this whole SCO affair is this. It's in a sense a right of passage. It's an announcement that Linux is here, it's real, and it is going to matter. It is in a sense a wake up call for the rest.
Cheers.
Cheers, Curtis. :)
Curtis Rey wrote: [snip] [
On the issue of your company put a 6 month hold on implimenting a possible Linux solution, I can't help but think that this is exactly what one of SCOs primary objective is - to skew the market and milk all they can out of the immenent obsoletion of their IPs worth.
Close.......it's MickySoft that wants to stop dev. for Linux!! Fred -- Fred A. Miller Systems Administrator Cornell Univ. Press Services fm@cupserv.org, www.cupserv.org
The 03.05.24 at 10:08, Matthew Johnson wrote:
Seems that because of the recession, a number of cost-conscious businesses are swithching to Linux. May the recession last as long as possible....
You say that because you have not being hit: I have, badly :-(
Yep, and another line of thought: More money to spend usually equates to more experiments, so in a good economy wouldn't Linux still be considered? Perhaps even more?
Yes. If you don't have much money, stick with what you have, don't buy anything not strictly necessary. If the office is cold, you choose whether to buy heating, or use a coat inside and get our salaries paid... it can be as bad as that, and more. So they will copy SuSE, not buy it. A correspondent of mine told me that they turned to develop with/for Linux because many clients do not want to pay the cost of Windows + databases + whatever + their software. They "think" that every thing is included in the price... so the client or the provider copies or provides copies of software "for free". :-( At least, if they develop for Linux the remain legal. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
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