[opensuse] openSUSE 10.2 cannot see external USB HDD
Help I have an external hdd hotswap box with removable trays connected via a USB cable. It works/ed with SuSE 9.x auto mounting on /media/usb-storage-some_very_long_name_with_silly_characters. I actually saved most of my local filesystems onto a removable HDD using cp -a dir1, dir2, ... It works with SUSE 10.0 auto mounting on /media/usbdis_1 (or 2,3, ..). But, on opensuse 10.2, the device does not even seem to be noticed by the system (does not register with lsusb or dmesg). fdisk -l shows a series of /dev/dm-[0-7] entries. These can be mounted separately and accessed (these being the subdirectories on the original system). I expect it to mount /dev/sdb[1-?] but these do not exist! I have struggled to find where all this is configured: it seems to be different on all 3 versions of SUSE. Can anyone tell me where to look for the config files for the dbus - hal - hotplug - usb chain? Most of the documentation on SUSE and Novell sites seems out of date and conflicts with linuxusb.org's documentation. regards John O'Gorman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 19 April 2007, John O'Gorman wrote:
Help
I have an external hdd hotswap box with removable trays connected via a USB cable.
It works/ed with SuSE 9.x auto mounting on /media/usb-storage-some_very_long_name_with_silly_characters. I actually saved most of my local filesystems onto a removable HDD using cp -a dir1, dir2, ...
It works with SUSE 10.0 auto mounting on /media/usbdis_1 (or 2,3, ..).
But, on opensuse 10.2, the device does not even seem to be noticed by the system (does not register with lsusb or dmesg).
John, you might try the new kernel that was posted about within the last three days, where usbfs is re-enabled. I think that 10.2 sort of leaves mounting up to the desktop software (kde) or something, because if I plug in a usb drive at runlevel 3 I get results similar to yours. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 08:40:39PM -0800, John Andersen wrote:
On Thursday 19 April 2007, John O'Gorman wrote:
Help
I have an external hdd hotswap box with removable trays connected via a USB cable.
It works/ed with SuSE 9.x auto mounting on /media/usb-storage-some_very_long_name_with_silly_characters. I actually saved most of my local filesystems onto a removable HDD using cp -a dir1, dir2, ...
It works with SUSE 10.0 auto mounting on /media/usbdis_1 (or 2,3, ..).
But, on opensuse 10.2, the device does not even seem to be noticed by the system (does not register with lsusb or dmesg).
John, you might try the new kernel that was posted about within the last three days, where usbfs is re-enabled.
This kernel changes absolutely nothing with hotplugging USB Storage Deviecs.
I think that 10.2 sort of leaves mounting up to the desktop software (kde) or something, because if I plug in a usb drive at runlevel 3 I get results similar to yours.
It should show up in lsusb from the start even so. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
But, on opensuse 10.2, the device does not even seem to be noticed by the system (does not register with lsusb or dmesg).
John, you might try the new kernel that was posted about within the last three days, where usbfs is re-enabled.
This kernel changes absolutely nothing with hotplugging USB Storage Deviecs.
I think that 10.2 sort of leaves mounting up to the desktop software (kde) or something, because if I plug in a usb drive at runlevel 3 I get results similar to yours.
It should show up in lsusb from the start even so.
Is an enabled usbfs a necessary (if not sufficient) condition for USB HDDs? Note on this same system USB memory sticks still work fine. It's just the external USB enclosure which makes no impression. John
Ciao, Marcus
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On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 06:19:23AM +1200, John O'Gorman wrote:
But, on opensuse 10.2, the device does not even seem to be noticed by the system (does not register with lsusb or dmesg).
John, you might try the new kernel that was posted about within the last three days, where usbfs is re-enabled.
This kernel changes absolutely nothing with hotplugging USB Storage Deviecs.
I think that 10.2 sort of leaves mounting up to the desktop software (kde) or something, because if I plug in a usb drive at runlevel 3 I get results similar to yours.
It should show up in lsusb from the start even so.
Is an enabled usbfs a necessary (if not sufficient) condition for USB HDDs?
No.
Note on this same system USB memory sticks still work fine. It's just the external USB enclosure which makes no impression.
Then it is another bug. Is enough power attached to the enclosure? Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 08:58 +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 06:19:23AM +1200, John O'Gorman wrote:
But, on opensuse 10.2, the device does not even seem to be noticed by the system (does not register with lsusb or dmesg).
John, you might try the new kernel that was posted about within the last three days, where usbfs is re-enabled.
This kernel changes absolutely nothing with hotplugging USB Storage Deviecs.
I think that 10.2 sort of leaves mounting up to the desktop software (kde) or something, because if I plug in a usb drive at runlevel 3 I get results similar to yours.
It should show up in lsusb from the start even so.
Is an enabled usbfs a necessary (if not sufficient) condition for USB HDDs?
No.
Note on this same system USB memory sticks still work fine. It's just the external USB enclosure which makes no impression.
Then it is another bug. Is enough power attached to the enclosure? Yes, plugged into the wall socket.
Ciao, Marcus
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-04-20 at 08:16 +1200, John O'Gorman wrote:
Then it is another bug. Is enough power attached to the enclosure? Yes, plugged into the wall socket.
You could try to see if it works with some other operating system, like a suse live version, but 10.0 or .1, to verify it is not a hardware issue (I mean, not changing anything else but the OS). The old install/rescue dvd might suffice. Can you hear the disks spinning? With some devices it seems the bus has to be enabled to deliver more power, and that doesn't happen in 10.2 for some reason. Your box could get the motor power from the wall, and part of the electronics from the usb. Just a very wild guess. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGKWObtTMYHG2NR9URAuo/AJ9FxjMCFVy0M79aLNTM4dQfFLc2kQCggVBQ b+2xUVPf+wONGEvd7c1Ly2s= =Qmwq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 08:58 +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 06:19:23AM +1200, John O'Gorman wrote: the external USB enclosure which makes no impression.
Then it is another bug. Is enough power attached to the enclosure? Yes, plugged into the wall socket. Your suggestion prompted me to find another external case (identical to
On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 08:16 +1200, John O'Gorman wrote: the first one). It worked perfectly on 10.2! So there is probably a marginally adequate power supply in the hotpswap mechanism in the case. Seems strange that it worked with one version of the operating system and not with another. I would still like to know how/where all this stuff gets configured (hal?, udev?, ? . 10.2 does not seem to use hotplug scripts anymore). thanks John O'Gorman
Ciao, Marcus
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John Andersen wrote:
On Thursday 19 April 2007, John O'Gorman wrote:
Help
I have an external hdd hotswap box with removable trays connected via a USB cable.
It works/ed with SuSE 9.x auto mounting on /media/usb-storage-some_very_long_name_with_silly_characters. I actually saved most of my local filesystems onto a removable HDD using cp -a dir1, dir2, ...
It works with SUSE 10.0 auto mounting on /media/usbdis_1 (or 2,3, ..).
But, on opensuse 10.2, the device does not even seem to be noticed by the system (does not register with lsusb or dmesg).
John, you might try the new kernel that was posted about within the last three days, where usbfs is re-enabled.
I think that 10.2 sort of leaves mounting up to the desktop software (kde) or something, because if I plug in a usb drive at runlevel 3 I get results similar to yours.
Have you tried cat /proc/mounts to see if the device mounts? I have found that my external USB drives now mount as /media/disk as oppose with the strange long names. -- Joseph Loo jloo@acm.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Does anyone know where 10.2 differs from 10.0 in handling USB devices. In my case, 10.0 works perfectly for external hotswap HDDs and 10.2 works not at all. I imagine the difference is in /usr/share/hal/fdi/.... something.fdi Puzzlingly memory sticks work OK on both 10.0 and 10.2 regards John O'Gorman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 20 April 2007 10:34, John O'Gorman wrote:
Does anyone know where 10.2 differs from 10.0 in handling USB devices.
In my case, 10.0 works perfectly for external hotswap HDDs and 10.2 works not at all.
I imagine the difference is in /usr/share/hal/fdi/.... something.fdi
Puzzlingly memory sticks work OK on both 10.0 and 10.2
regards John O'Gorman
It works here with external USB hard disk from Western Digital, that has fat32, reiserfs, and ext3 partitions. It is something how device identifies itself. There is another thing, look in /media directory for it. Here, not all partitions are removed if I don't use command sync from console, and it adds them again and again increasing X in /dev/sdX every time. I tried to repeat this up to /dev/sdf was created. Maybe you run more times and it run out of letters. Just a thought. -- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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