In accordance with some help from this group a week or two ago, I learned that I have to detach files to a directory before trying to read them in a word processor. So I do that. I have OpenOffice that came with 9.1, and WordPerfect that I recently bought, which Corel is not selling any more, I guess due to muchos problemos. There does not seem to be any real help for Linux on their web-site. I receive files in .doc format which I need to print out and edit. With WP, the file is converted, and then the program hangs, and the file cannot (usually) be printed, but the formatting seems to be OK. With OpenOffice, the file is readable with a whole lot of garbage on the top and the bottom, and all the formatting--bold, italics, line spacing--is gone. Please, does anyone have a solution for this? I thought that OO was working, I got a couple of files a week or so that had the formatting intact, but now that's all gone. I would buy the commercial version of OO from Sun, but how do I know it would work any better? Must I go back to Windows? WP for Windows works well. I have the Reiser FS. How can I copy files from this FS to the NTFS system using Windows, since Linux will not allow me to write to the NTFS system. Then I could boot to Win and use the Win tools on the files. --doug
On Saturday 14 August 2004 11:03 pm, Doug McGarrett wrote:
In accordance with some help from this group a week or two ago, I learned that I have to detach files to a directory before trying to read them in a word processor. So I do that.
I have OpenOffice that came with 9.1, and WordPerfect that I recently bought, which Corel is not selling any more, I guess due to muchos problemos. There does not seem to be any real help for Linux on their web-site.
I receive files in .doc format which I need to print out and edit. With WP, the file is converted, and then the program hangs, and the file cannot (usually) be printed, but the formatting seems to be OK. With OpenOffice, the file is readable with a whole lot of garbage on the top and the bottom, and all the formatting--bold, italics, line spacing--is gone.
Please, does anyone have a solution for this? I thought that OO was working, I got a couple of files a week or so that had the formatting intact, but now that's all gone.
I would buy the commercial version of OO from Sun, but how do I know it would work any better? Must I go back to Windows? WP for Windows works well.
I have the Reiser FS. How can I copy files from this FS to the NTFS system using Windows, since Linux will not allow me to write to the NTFS system. Then I could boot to Win and use the Win tools on the files.
--doug =============
Doug, Both KWord and Abiword will read Wordperfect files. Not always perfectly or with every little bit of formatting in tact, but pretty well. There is also a program available that converts WP files to OO files nicely using the shell/konsole. The program is wpd2sxw and located here: http://libwpd.sourceforge.net/ It works quite well and maintains 99% of the formatting too. Also, have you tried the older WP8 for Linux? You should just need to install some of the old shlibs to work. Those should be on your SuSE CD's. Lee -- --- KMail v1.6.82 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.1 --- Registered Linux User #225206 I do everything my Rice Krispies tell me to do!
On Sunday 15 August 2004 00:42, BandiPat wrote: /snip/
Doug, Both KWord and Abiword will read Wordperfect files. Not always perfectly or with every little bit of formatting in tact, but pretty well. There is also a program available that converts WP files to OO files nicely using the shell/konsole. The program is wpd2sxw and located here: http://libwpd.sourceforge.net/
It works quite well and maintains 99% of the formatting too. Also, have you tried the older WP8 for Linux? You should just need to install some of the old shlibs to work. Those should be on your SuSE CD's.
Lee -- It sounds like KWord would be on the drive already, but it seems not to be. Where do I look for KWord or Abiword? (I normally get the files in MS Word .doc form, but I can get them in .wpd form if I need to. WordPerfect converts the files fine, then hangs, to where I need to "kill" it.) I used to have the older WP8 for Linux, but I have moved house, and I don't know if I can find it. Unlike some folks on the list, I am not averse to spending money on programs I need, so long as the amount is not ridiculous.
Thanx for your advice. --doug
On Sunday 15 August 2004 07:49 pm, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On Sunday 15 August 2004 00:42, BandiPat wrote: /snip/
Doug, Both KWord and Abiword will read Wordperfect files. Not always perfectly or with every little bit of formatting in tact, but pretty well. There is also a program available that converts WP files to OO files nicely using the shell/konsole. The program is wpd2sxw and located here: http://libwpd.sourceforge.net/
It works quite well and maintains 99% of the formatting too. Also, have you tried the older WP8 for Linux? You should just need to install some of the old shlibs to work. Those should be on your SuSE CD's.
Lee --
It sounds like KWord would be on the drive already, but it seems not to be. Where do I look for KWord or Abiword? (I normally get the files in MS Word .doc form, but I can get them in .wpd form if I need to. WordPerfect converts the files fine, then hangs, to where I need to "kill" it.) I used to have the older WP8 for Linux, but I have moved house, and I don't know if I can find it. Unlike some folks on the list, I am not averse to spending money on programs I need, so long as the amount is not ridiculous.
Thanx for your advice.
--doug ============
Doug, The MS Word filter included with WP8 broke a few years ago due to the billion second bug in Unix. Corel never issued a fix and I'm guessing that they haven't yet corrected it in the one they are selling either. From your description of the problem with the files, it would seem the filter was still very much broken. Another gentleman did create a fix for the older WP8 and it works without problems for .doc files. I'm not sure if his new filter will work with the new WP8 though. I would be happy to send it to you to try. In another mail you mention trying to work with the file after opening it from your kmail as an attachment. If I am not mistaken, opening an attachment from the mail only opens it in a read-only mode and doesn't allow you to work with it. With something like this, I would suggest you always save the document to disk first, then open with OO. I believe it will work better for you at that point. Lee -- --- KMail v1.6.82 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.1 --- Registered Linux User #225206 I do everything my Rice Krispies tell me to do!
Thank you for your advice. I will ask you to send me the filter if I ever get my Linux system working again. It crashed yesterday. --doug At 08:35 AM 8/16/2004 -0400, BandiPat wrote:
On Sunday 15 August 2004 07:49 pm, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On Sunday 15 August 2004 00:42, BandiPat wrote: /snip/
Doug, Both KWord and Abiword will read Wordperfect files. Not always perfectly or with every little bit of formatting in tact, but pretty well. There is also a program available that converts WP files to OO files nicely using the shell/konsole. The program is wpd2sxw and located here: http://libwpd.sourceforge.net/
It works quite well and maintains 99% of the formatting too. Also, have you tried the older WP8 for Linux? You should just need to install some of the old shlibs to work. Those should be on your SuSE CD's.
Lee --
It sounds like KWord would be on the drive already, but it seems not to be. Where do I look for KWord or Abiword? (I normally get the files in MS Word .doc form, but I can get them in .wpd form if I need to. WordPerfect converts the files fine, then hangs, to where I need to "kill" it.) I used to have the older WP8 for Linux, but I have moved house, and I don't know if I can find it. Unlike some folks on the list, I am not averse to spending money on programs I need, so long as the amount is not ridiculous.
Thanx for your advice.
--doug ============
Doug, The MS Word filter included with WP8 broke a few years ago due to the billion second bug in Unix. Corel never issued a fix and I'm guessing that they haven't yet corrected it in the one they are selling either. From your description of the problem with the files, it would seem the filter was still very much broken.
Another gentleman did create a fix for the older WP8 and it works without problems for .doc files. I'm not sure if his new filter will work with the new WP8 though. I would be happy to send it to you to try.
In another mail you mention trying to work with the file after opening it from your kmail as an attachment. If I am not mistaken, opening an attachment from the mail only opens it in a read-only mode and doesn't allow you to work with it. With something like this, I would suggest you always save the document to disk first, then open with OO. I believe it will work better for you at that point.
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On Monday 16 Aug 2004 00:49, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On Sunday 15 August 2004 00:42, BandiPat wrote: /snip/
Doug, Both KWord and Abiword will read Wordperfect files. Not always perfectly or with every little bit of formatting in tact, but pretty well. There is also a program available that converts WP files to OO files nicely using the shell/konsole. The program is wpd2sxw and located here: http://libwpd.sourceforge.net/
It works quite well and maintains 99% of the formatting too. Also, have you tried the older WP8 for Linux? You should just need to install some of the old shlibs to work. Those should be on your SuSE CD's.
Lee -- It sounds like KWord would be on the drive already, but it seems not to be. Where do I look for KWord or Abiword? (I normally get the files in MS Word .doc form, but I can get them in .wpd form if I need to. WordPerfect converts the files fine, then hangs, to where I need to "kill" it.) I used to have the older WP8 for Linux, but I have moved house, and I don't know if I can find it. Unlike some folks on the list, I am not averse to spending money on programs I need, so long as the amount is not ridiculous.
Thanx for your advice.
--doug
TextMaker is on "http://www.softmaker.de/index_en.htm" Well worth the small outlay plus you get updates .. Pete -- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan PGN
Doug, On Saturday 14 August 2004 20:03, Doug McGarrett wrote:
...
I have OpenOffice that came with 9.1, ...
I receive files in .doc format which I need to print out and edit. With WP, the file is converted, and then the program hangs, and the file cannot (usually) be printed, but the formatting seems to be OK. With OpenOffice, the file is readable with a whole lot of garbage on the top and the bottom, and all the formatting--bold, italics, line spacing--is gone.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think OO.o is interpreting your WordPerfect ".doc" files as Microsoft Word. Naturally, this won't work. I went through the file format pop-up in the OO.o and WordPerfect does not appear there. (This, too, is the stock OO.o included with SuSE Pro 9.1.)
...
I would buy the commercial version of OO from Sun, but how do I know it would work any better? Must I go back to Windows? WP for Windows works well.
I found one Web site that refers to a project to create a WordPerfect import filter for OO.o:: http://wp.openoffice.org/. There may be others.
I have the Reiser FS. How can I copy files from this FS to the NTFS system using Windows, since Linux will not allow me to write to the NTFS system. Then I could boot to Win and use the Win tools on the files.
A couple of options: 1) Format a diskette for FAT and bounce files via it. 2) Create a FAT partition somewhere on (one of) your hard drive(s). It can be mounted read/write under Linux. 3) Use a USB memory stick, again using a FAT file system format.
--doug
Randall Schulz
Randall R Schulz wrote:
A couple of options:
1) Format a diskette for FAT and bounce files via it. 2) Create a FAT partition somewhere on (one of) your hard drive(s). It can be mounted read/write under Linux. 3) Use a USB memory stick, again using a FAT file system format.
I have both SuSE 9.1 and XP on my notebook. What I did, was create a FAT 32 partition and moved the XP "My Documents" folder to it. Then I created a symbolic link, called "My Document" from my home directory to that partition. It works well in both directions.
I guess I was not clear in my original message. I receive the .doc files in MSWord format, which WordPerfect will convert--then it hangs. OO is supposed to read MSWord .doc files seamlessly, and once in a while, it does. But mostly it doesn't. I could recive the files in WP format, but that doesn't help--WP hangs anyway. --doug On Sunday 15 August 2004 01:01, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Doug,
On Saturday 14 August 2004 20:03, Doug McGarrett wrote:
...
I have OpenOffice that came with 9.1, ...
I receive files in .doc format which I need to print out and edit. With WP, the file is converted, and then the program hangs, and the file cannot (usually) be printed, but the formatting seems to be OK. With OpenOffice, the file is readable with a whole lot of garbage on the top and the bottom, and all the formatting--bold, italics, line spacing--is gone.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think OO.o is interpreting your WordPerfect ".doc" files as Microsoft Word. Naturally, this won't work. I went through the file format pop-up in the OO.o and WordPerfect does not appear there. (This, too, is the stock OO.o included with SuSE Pro 9.1.)
...
I would buy the commercial version of OO from Sun, but how do I know it would work any better? Must I go back to Windows? WP for Windows works well.
I found one Web site that refers to a project to create a WordPerfect import filter for OO.o:: http://wp.openoffice.org/. There may be others.
I have the Reiser FS. How can I copy files from this FS to the NTFS system using Windows, since Linux will not allow me to write to the NTFS system. Then I could boot to Win and use the Win tools on the files.
A couple of options:
1) Format a diskette for FAT and bounce files via it. 2) Create a FAT partition somewhere on (one of) your hard drive(s). It can be mounted read/write under Linux. 3) Use a USB memory stick, again using a FAT file system format.
--doug
Randall Schulz
On Sunday 15 Aug 2004 04:03, Doug McGarrett wrote:
In accordance with some help from this group a week or two ago, I learned that I have to detach files to a directory before trying to read them in a word processor. So I do that.
I have OpenOffice that came with 9.1, and WordPerfect that I recently bought, which Corel is not selling any more, I guess due to muchos problemos. There does not seem to be any real help for Linux on their web-site.
I receive files in .doc format which I need to print out and edit. With WP, the file is converted, and then the program hangs, and the file cannot (usually) be printed, but the formatting seems to be OK. With OpenOffice, the file is readable with a whole lot of garbage on the top and the bottom, and all the formatting--bold, italics, line spacing--is gone.
Please, does anyone have a solution for this? I thought that OO was working, I got a couple of files a week or so that had the formatting intact, but now that's all gone.
I would buy the commercial version of OO from Sun, but how do I know it would work any better? Must I go back to Windows? WP for Windows works well.
I have the Reiser FS. How can I copy files from this FS to the NTFS system using Windows, since Linux will not allow me to write to the NTFS system. Then I could boot to Win and use the Win tools on the files.
--doug
Try using TextMaker from "SoftMaker Software GmbH" I use it all the time for .doc files and i get a lot of them some for editing some to print out never had any problems with it it is also VERY fast compared with the rest of them .. Pete . -- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan PGN
Doug McGarrett wrote:
In accordance with some help from this group a week or two ago, I learned that I have to detach files to a directory before trying to read them in a word processor. So I do that.
I have OpenOffice that came with 9.1, and WordPerfect that I recently bought, which Corel is not selling any more, I guess due to muchos problemos. There does not seem to be any real help for Linux on their web-site.
I receive files in .doc format which I need to print out and edit. With WP, the file is converted, and then the program hangs, and the file cannot (usually) be printed, but the formatting seems to be OK. With OpenOffice, the file is readable with a whole lot of garbage on the top and the bottom, and all the formatting--bold, italics, line spacing--is gone.
Please, does anyone have a solution for this? I thought that OO was working, I got a couple of files a week or so that had the formatting intact, but now that's all gone.
I would buy the commercial version of OO from Sun, but how do I know it would work any better? Must I go back to Windows? WP for Windows works well.
I have the Reiser FS. How can I copy files from this FS to the NTFS system using Windows, since Linux will not allow me to write to the NTFS system. Then I could boot to Win and use the Win tools on the files.
I know it's not a fix, but I use OpenOffice with doc files all the time and I don't have to save them first. I can open right from the e-mail, in Mozilla and it starts up OO just fine. Same applies to XLS and PPS files. I also use Reiser.
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