On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 18:18:36 -0500, Carl Hartung took time to say the following: (^_^)On Sat January 27 2007 18:08, Carl Hartung wrote: (^_^)> I'm no "guru" but this is a known problem, particularly in cases where (^_^)<snip> (^_^) (^_^)Addendum: (^_^) (^_^)I forgot to add that the directories/paths it writes are always correct. The (^_^)biggest problem is it gets "confused" about which partition is actually (^_^)supposed to be root when there are too many choices. (^_^) (^_^)Carl Should it not migrate (for lack of a better term) to the partition(s) that are native to Linux? I had the partitions already setup before I did the install so that there won't be any 'mistakes" by wiping out a partition it wasn't suppose to. :-) Actually I created a swap partition, and one large ext3 partition, but during installation, it decided to created two partitions from the one large one. Too many people spend money they haven't earned to buy things they don't want, to impress people they don't like. -Will Rogers -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

# Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Sat Jan 27 22:50:52 UTC 2007 default 0 timeout 8 gfxmenu (/dev/sda,7)/boot/message ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: windows 1### title windows 1 rootnoverify (hd0,0) chainloader (hd0,0)+1 ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### title openSUSE 10.2 root (/dev/sda,7) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-34-default root=/dev/sda8 vga=0x317 resume=/dev/sda7 splash=silent showopts initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.18.2-34-default ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: failsafe### title Failsafe -- openSUSE 10.2 root (/dev/sda,7) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-34-default root=/dev/sda8 vga=normal showopts ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off noresume edd=off 3 initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.18.2-34-default -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 19:43:58 -0500, Mike McMullin took time to say the following: (^_^)On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 16:36 -0800, charles@daphatbell.com wrote: (^_^)> # Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Sat Jan 27 22:50:52 UTC 2007 (^_^)> default 0 (^_^)> timeout 8 (^_^)> gfxmenu (/dev/sda,7)/boot/message (^_^)> (^_^)> ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: windows 1### (^_^)> title windows 1 (^_^)> rootnoverify (hd0,0) (^_^)> chainloader (hd0,0)+1 (^_^)> (^_^)> ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### (^_^)> title openSUSE 10.2 (^_^)> root (/dev/sda,7) (^_^)here^^^ (^_^)> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-34-default root=/dev/sda8 vga=0x317 (^_^)end of this line----------> (^_^)> resume=/dev/sda7 splash=silent showopts (^_^)> initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.18.2-34-default (^_^)> (^_^)> ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: failsafe### (^_^)> title Failsafe -- openSUSE 10.2 (^_^)> root (/dev/sda,7) (^_^)here ^^^^^^ (^_^)> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-34-default root=/dev/sda8 vga=normal (^_^)end of this line-----------> (^_^)> showopts ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off noresume edd=off 3 (^_^)> initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.18.2-34-default (^_^) (^_^) In each of these last two sections you have a root spec for /dev/sda7 (^_^)and /dev/sda8, is that supposed to be like that? If that question needs to be asked, then maybe it's not. I am not well versed in the inner workings of Linux. :-( Once the install finishes, I can log on the system as a user and as root. I don't get it though because sda7 is the swap partition. I don't think root should be linked to that partition if I am correct, right? Too many people spend money they haven't earned to buy things they don't want, to impress people they don't like. -Will Rogers -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 08:53:02 +0800, "Joe Morris (NTM)" took time to say the following: (^_^)charles@daphatbell.com wrote: (^_^)> # Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Sat Jan 27 22:50:52 UTC 2007 (^_^)> default 0 (^_^)> timeout 8 (^_^)> gfxmenu (/dev/sda,7)/boot/message (^_^)The /dev/sda7 is wrong here. It should be in grub speak, which if this (^_^)partition is correct, would be hdx,6, depending on how your system sees (^_^)the sata controller. If it sees it as the first controller, hd0,6, if (^_^)not, then depends on your IDE controller, perhaps hd2,6 (^_^)> ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: (^_^)> windows 1### (^_^)> title windows 1 (^_^)> rootnoverify (hd0,0) (^_^)> chainloader (hd0,0)+1 (^_^)> ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### (^_^)> title openSUSE 10.2 (^_^)> root (/dev/sda,7) (^_^)wrong root designation. See above. (^_^)> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-34-default root=/dev/sda8 vga=0x317 (^_^)> resume=/dev/sda7 (^_^)Which is the root partition? it assigned sda7 for resume, so that (^_^)should be a swap partition. (^_^)> splash=silent showopts (^_^)> initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.18.2-34-default (^_^)> ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: (^_^)> failsafe### (^_^)> title Failsafe -- openSUSE 10.2 (^_^)> root (/dev/sda,7) (^_^)Again wrong (^_^)> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-34-default root=/dev/sda8 vga=normal (^_^)> showopts ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off noresume edd=off 3 (^_^)> initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.18.2-34-default (^_^)> (^_^)What does your /boot/grub/device.map look like, to know how grub sees (^_^)your controllers? (^_^) (^_^)-- (^_^)Joe Morris (^_^)Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 I'll have to get back to you on that last request. (dinner is being served) :-) The big question is, do I re-install and manually do this? Do I or can I change this while the system is running? Thanks (to all) for all the help. Too many people spend money they haven't earned to buy things they don't want, to impress people they don't like. -Will Rogers -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 19:10:33 -0600, M Harris took time to say the following: (^_^)On Saturday 27 January 2007 18:36, charles@daphatbell.com wrote: (^_^)> ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### (^_^)> title openSUSE 10.2 (^_^)    root (/dev/sda,7) <<============= THIS IS WRONG (^_^)>    kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-34-default root=/dev/sda8 vga=0x317     (^_^)> resume=/dev/sda7 splash=silent showopts (^_^)>    initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.18.2-34-default (^_^) Your root specification is not correct. Should be: (^_^) (^_^) root (hd0,6) (^_^) (^_^) ... and that is assuming that the /boot partition is on /dev/sda7. (they (^_^)number from zero) (^_^) (^_^) (^_^)-- (^_^)Kind regards, (^_^) (^_^)M Harris < So instead of sda7, sda8, and sda9, it should be hd0,6, hd0,7 and hd0,8? hd0,6 would still be the swap partition, correct? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Saturday 27 January 2007 19:22, M Harris wrote:

        It works like this... Here is a sample from my menu.lst......

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### title SUSE LINUX 10.0 root (hd0,4) kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6 vga=0x317 selinux=0 resume=/dev/sda3 splash=silent showopts initrd /initrd You'll notice the kernel root is on /dev/sda6 (that's the actual device) and you'll notice that my root (hd0,4) is where my /boot partition is located. I place my / and my /boot on different partitions. Anyway, my /boot is on (hd0,4) on my first drive partition number 5 (the actual device is /dev/sda5). Hope this helps -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Saturday 27 January 2007 21:33, Charles R. Buchanan wrote:

I'll probably have to wipe the mbr and start over again. :-(  Will keep you informed. Well, yeah. You'll need to install grub.

One of the cool things about grub is that only the very small 1st stage is loaded into the mbr. The second stage is loaded from /boot and the whole process is controlled by the menu.lst profile at bootup... its dynamic too... so that it can be changed on the fly (grub commands) at bootup and it can be changed with an editor while the machine is running.... no need to reload the mbr every time a change is made (as in lilo). Well, we missunderstood your situation. I thought you were booting with grub and experiencing difficulty.... I did not realize that you were booting from lilo. <sorry> Good night... I've had enough for one day. -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 17:13 -0800, Charles R. Buchanan wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 19:10:33 -0600, M Harris took time to say the following:

(^_^)On Saturday 27 January 2007 18:36, charles@daphatbell.com wrote: (^_^)> ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### (^_^)> title openSUSE 10.2 (^_^) root (/dev/sda,7) <<============= THIS IS WRONG (^_^)> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-34-default root=/dev/sda8 vga=0x317 (^_^)> resume=/dev/sda7 splash=silent showopts (^_^)> initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.18.2-34-default (^_^) Your root specification is not correct. Should be: (^_^) (^_^) root (hd0,6) (^_^) (^_^) ... and that is assuming that the /boot partition is on /dev/sda7. (they (^_^)number from zero) (^_^) (^_^) (^_^)-- (^_^)Kind regards, (^_^) (^_^)M Harris <

So instead of sda7, sda8, and sda9, it should be hd0,6, hd0,7 and hd0,8? hd0,6 would still be the swap partition, correct?

No it should still be sda?, if sda7 is your swap, and sda8 is your / then your grub menu list ought to point to /dev/sda8 and not /dev/sda7 for your root partition. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sat January 27 2007 18:50, Charles R. Buchanan wrote:

Hmm? So I should manually change these settings? I was almost confident about the partitions because sda7 (swap), sda8 (root), and sda9 (home) was correct as far as where they were on the drive itself.

My point is this: The YaST bootloader configuration module is just scripting designed to inspect and *hopefully* correctly identify the purpose and location for each drive and partition that it "sees". When it inspects a simple environment, as in 0 or a single already installed operating system, it generally seems to deduce and write things correctly. However, when it inspects more complex arrangements (like the time I had 9.3, 10.0, 10.1, Win98SE and XP installed) it seems to be more vulnerable to mapping some of the partitions incorrectly. I've never seen it write incorrect directories or paths, just propose to write incorrect drive and/or partition numbers. I've learned it is a good idea to **always** double-check it's work before committing a proposed configuration to disk. Keep in mind that YaST modules are excellent and very helpful GUI "front-end" tools, but they aren't 'deeply sophisticated' or omnipotent. Sometimes the human must intervene! ;-) regards, Carl Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 17:29:50 -0600, M Harris took time to say the following: (^_^)On Saturday 27 January 2007 16:38, Charles R. Buchanan wrote: (^_^)> I'm still at it. :-) This is still giving me problems. It has also made me (^_^)> question the whole thing. Part of the error statement is as follows: (^_^)> (^_^)> setup = stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0) (/dev/sda7) (^_^) Would you be willing to post your menu.lst? (^_^)-- (^_^)Kind regards, (^_^) (^_^)M Harris I will a little bit. Too many people spend money they haven't earned to buy things they don't want, to impress people they don't like. -Will Rogers -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org