On Sunday 25 July 2004 09:18 am, Davy Brion wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 02:12:13 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Go to www.theregister.co.uk and read the article, "Novell eyes lean, mean Linux".

The American bean-counters are well entreched.

Cheers.

i don't think this will have a big impact on Suse Linux as we know it... i think it just means that Novell will offer an Enterprise Linux (based on Suse Linux) which will be pretty lean when it comes to package offerings. But i believe Suse will continue to develop and release Suse Linux as we know it.

I hope you are correct. But on what do you base your belief ? Do you have info in Australia that is not commonly available in Germany and the US? Just thinking about it (with absolutely NO info to base it on) I suspect Novell is building its replacement for Netware. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen

On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 12:55 -0800, John Andersen wrote:

On Sunday 25 July 2004 09:18 am, Davy Brion wrote:

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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 02:12:13 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Go to www.theregister.co.uk and read the article, "Novell eyes lean, mean Linux".

The American bean-counters are well entreched.

Cheers.

i don't think this will have a big impact on Suse Linux as we know it... i think it just means that Novell will offer an Enterprise Linux (based on Suse Linux) which will be pretty lean when it comes to package offerings. But i believe Suse will continue to develop and release Suse Linux as we know it.

I hope you are correct.

But on what do you base your belief ? Do you have info in Australia that is not commonly available in Germany and the US?

Just thinking about it (with absolutely NO info to base it on) I suspect Novell is building its replacement for Netware.

Hartmut Meyer is a SuSE employee. I suspect he knows what he's talking about

On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 18:04 -0400, James Knott wrote:

Anders Johansson wrote:

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Hartmut Meyer is a SuSE employee. I suspect he knows what he's talking about

I've forgotten what he said and I no longer have that message.

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com is pretty good, try http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=suse-linux-e&m=109077876206745&w=2 There's also http://lists.suse.com/archive/ In this case, specifically http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2004-Jul/3544.html

On Sunday 25 July 2004 01:54 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:

On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 12:55 -0800, John Andersen wrote:

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On Sunday 25 July 2004 09:18 am, Davy Brion wrote:

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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 02:12:13 +1000, Basil Chupin

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Go to www.theregister.co.uk and read the article, "Novell eyes lean, mean Linux".

The American bean-counters are well entreched.

Cheers.

i don't think this will have a big impact on Suse Linux as we know it... i think it just means that Novell will offer an Enterprise Linux (based on Suse Linux) which will be pretty lean when it comes to package offerings. But i believe Suse will continue to develop and release Suse Linux as we know it.

I hope you are correct.

But on what do you base your belief ? Do you have info in Australia that is not commonly available in Germany and the US?

Just thinking about it (with absolutely NO info to base it on) I suspect Novell is building its replacement for Netware.

Hartmut Meyer is a SuSE employee. I suspect he knows what he's talking about

How is that germain? Davy Brion is not a SuSE or Novell employee, and he is the one to whic the question was posed. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen

On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 13:18, Davy Brion wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 02:12:13 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Go to www.theregister.co.uk and read the article, "Novell eyes lean, mean Linux".

The American bean-counters are well entreched.

Cheers.

i don't think this will have a big impact on Suse Linux as we know it... i think it just means that Novell will offer an Enterprise Linux (based on Suse Linux) which will be pretty lean when it comes to package offerings. But i believe Suse will continue to develop and release Suse Linux as we know it.

If I remember correctly, the article talked about a slimmed down version for corporate deployment, thereby easing the burden on IT departments by not having to support/upgrade the wide range of apps that ship with the Pro version. So as long as they leave Pro alone, I'll be happy. :) Mike

Hartmut Meyer wrote:

Hi,

On Sunday 25 July 2004 18:12, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Go to www.theregister.co.uk and read the article, "Novell eyes lean, mean Linux".

That's related to the business/enterprise market (SUSE Linux Personal/Professional is not).

Have a look at the already existing SUSE Linux Desktop (SLD):

http://www.suse.com/en/business/products/sld/

They are talking about the next version of that.

Greetings from Bremen hartmut

I quite agree, it's business as usual and it seems to make sense, the Enterprise desktop market is an important one, Sun being the only significant player there at present. I would think that the remarks were intended for an audience that does include members of this list who are not Corporate buyers. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer =====LINUX ONLY USED HERE=====

* Doug McGarrett [07-25-04 14:13]:

I have a feeling that it's back to Mandrake for lots of us if they do that.

What part of the following message quote did you *not* understand? <quote> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 20:01:51 +0200 From: Hartmut Meyer To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Future direction of SuSE X-Message-Number-for-archive: 200578 Hi, On Sunday 25 July 2004 18:12, Basil Chupin wrote:

Go to www.theregister.co.uk and read the article, "Novell eyes lean, mean Linux".

That's related to the business/enterprise market (SUSE Linux Personal/Professional is not). Have a look at the already existing SUSE Linux Desktop (SLD): http://www.suse.com/en/business/products/sld/ They are talking about the next version of that. Greetings from Bremen hartmut </quote> -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos

On Sunday 25 Jul 2004 20:14, Doug McGarrett wrote:

I have a feeling that it's back to Mandrake for lots of us if they do that. --doug

On Sunday 25 July 2004 12:12, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Go to www.theregister.co.uk and read the article, "Novell eyes lean, mean Linux".

The American bean-counters are well entreched.

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If people bothered to look and read they would see what was going on instead of blind speculation . I am not an Novelle employee nor suse but having attended one of the recent Novelle conferences it is clear that they are building a replacment for netware but not by doing away with or slimming down suse as we know it that will continue to grow and improve , People see one little article and bang well thats it the whole world is cavinng in on them panic panic must run to another name quick well having installed/used Mandrake i for one will NOT be going that way if and when the need arose note i said IF but it will not suse is a money spinner it would be like that twat from M$ Corp saying thats it no more windBlows (what a loverley thought) but that will never happen will it . panic not you/we are safe .. -- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan PGN

Sid Boyce wrote:

peter Nikolic wrote:

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On Sunday 25 Jul 2004 20:14, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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I have a feeling that it's back to Mandrake for lots of us if they do that. --doug

On Sunday 25 July 2004 12:12, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Go to www.theregister.co.uk and read the article, "Novell eyes lean, mean Linux".

The American bean-counters are well entreched.

/footer snipped/

If people bothered to look and read they would see what was going on instead of blind speculation . I am not an Novelle employee nor suse but having attended one of the recent Novelle conferences it is clear that they are building a replacment for netware but not by doing away with or slimming down suse as we know it that will continue to grow and improve , People see one little article and bang well thats it the whole world is cavinng in on them panic panic must run to another name quick well having installed/used Mandrake i for one will NOT be going that way if and when the need arose note i said IF but it will not suse is a money spinner it would be like that twat from M$ Corp saying thats it no more windBlows (what a loverley thought) but that will never happen will it .

panic not you/we are safe ..

There was an article yesterday on lwn.net, slashdot.org or linuxtoday.com that listed an acquisition of a Cambridge UK company that will be integrated with SuSE to ply Linux to the Corporate sector, it was more detailed than previous articles. It explored the likelihood of success of this move and the possibility that it may ruin the close cooperation with HP and IBM. Lindows (Linspire), Xandros and Sun are targetting the same sector where there is surely a growth potential for a login and do work box. I like the tune http://info.lindows.com/LindowsRock/*LindowsRock*.*swf to the tune of LimboRock.* Regards Sid.

Don't know where the *'s above came from, it should be http://info.lindows.com/LindowsRock/LindowsRock.swf. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer =====LINUX ONLY USED HERE=====

James Knott wrote:

Sid Boyce wrote:

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There was an article yesterday on lwn.net, slashdot.org or linuxtoday.com that listed an acquisition of a Cambridge UK company that will be integrated with SuSE to ply Linux to the Corporate sector, it was more detailed than previous articles. It explored the likelihood of success of this move and the possibility that it may ruin the close cooperation with HP and IBM. Lindows (Linspire), Xandros and Sun are targetting the same sector where there is surely a growth potential for a login and do work box. I like the tune http://info.lindows.com/LindowsRock/*LindowsRock*.*swf to the tune of LimboRock.* Regards Sid.

That URL doesn't work for me.

http://info.lindows.com/LindowsRock/LindowsRock.swf it should be, I don't know how the *'s got there. I just tried it again and it plays with the flashplayer browser plugin. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer =====LINUX ONLY USED HERE=====

In a previous message, peter Nikolic wrote:

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I like the tune http://info.lindows.com/LindowsRock/*LindowsRock*.*swf to the tune of LimboRock.

That URL doesn't work for me. works perfectly well here just played it twice

Try taking the asterisks out and it works. TBH, though, I prefer the newer "Run Linspire" (to the tune of "Light my Fire" by the Doors). John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Valley of the Kings: ransack an ancient Egyptian tomb but beware of mummies!

In a previous message, James Knott wrote:

John Pettigrew wrote:

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TBH, though, I prefer the newer "Run Linspire" (to the tune of "Light my Fire" by the Doors).

That one worked fine for me a couple of days ago, but is apparently no longer available.

Yeah, I noticed that when trying to find the original again. Wonder why... John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Fields of Valour: 2 Norse clans battle on one of 3 different boards

James Knott wrote:

peter Nikolic wrote:

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On Tuesday 27 Jul 2004 19:11, James Knott wrote:

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Sid Boyce wrote:

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There was an article yesterday on lwn.net, slashdot.org or linuxtoday.com that listed an acquisition of a Cambridge UK company that will be integrated with SuSE to ply Linux to the Corporate sector, it was more detailed than previous articles. It explored the likelihood of success of this move and the possibility that it may ruin the close cooperation with HP and IBM. Lindows (Linspire), Xandros and Sun are targetting the same sector where there is surely a growth potential for a login and do work box. I like the tune http://info.lindows.com/LindowsRock/*LindowsRock*.*swf to the tune of LimboRock.* Regards Sid.

That URL doesn't work for me.

works perfectly well here just played it twice ... gotta give it to him darn catchy way of doing things need to get it on TV thou ..

The version above, with the * does not work. Another version was provided later, which does work.

I reposted twice, but some people seemed to have missed it. The asterisks crept in somehow, I cut and pasted it from firefox, it looked OK going from here, but when I saw the post later, the asterisks were there. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer =====LINUX ONLY USED HERE=====