[opensuse] Samsung 204b problem
Hi folks. My old viewsonic g790 finally started to die, so I went out and got a Samsung 204B. Perhaps it is because I'm running a puny old ATI 3D Rage Pro, or because I'm on SuSE 9.3, .... but when I plug in the new monitor (yes, I dropped down to console before doing so, so that I could safely run sax2), I get no output on the monitor, merely a floating box saying that I'm not running at optimum resolution (1600xNNN something). Enter, Esc, Space buttons don't seem to affect anything. Neither does turning off/on the monitor itself. Google didn't turn up anything helpful looking. FWIW, I tried running sax2 from another machine over ssh. Sax2 (mis)identified the monitor as a Samsung Syncmaster 45. I did not see the correct model in the list (but that's probably because 9.3 predates the model). I changed the Horz and Vert according to some specs I found online, but that made no particular difference (small surprise). Upgrading to 10.x is not really an option right now. Help? TIA. Michael -- Michael Fischer Happiness is a config option. michael@visv.net Recompile and be happy. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Date & Time: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:26:12 -0400
[Michael] == Michael Fischer
On Fri, Jun 15, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
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Subject : [opensuse] Samsung 204b problem Message-ID : <20070615012612.GA14456@blinkenlights.visv.net> Date & Time: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:26:12 -0400
[Michael] == Michael Fischer
has written: Michael> FWIW, I tried running sax2 from another machine over ssh. Michael> Sax2 (mis)identified the monitor as a Samsung Syncmaster 45. Michael> I did not see the correct model in the list (but that's Michael> probably because 9.3 predates the model). I changed the Michael> Horz and Vert according to some specs I found online, but Michael> that made no particular difference (small surprise).
Show the section "Monitor" part of xorg.conf. And inform us of the resokution which you will use.
I never made it into X, as I couldn't ever see the console once the new monitor was plugged in. Well, here is the old one: Section "Monitor" Option "CalcAlgorithm" "CheckDesktopGeometry" DisplaySize 370 280 HorizSync 30-95 Identifier "Monitor[0]" ModelName "G790" Option "DPMS" VendorName "VIEWSONIC" VertRefresh 50-180 UseModes "Modes[0]" EndSection And here is what sax came up with (modulo my changes to horz & vert) for the new monitor Section "Monitor" Option "CalcAlgorithm" "CheckDesktopGeometry" DisplaySize 410 310 HorizSync 31-81 Identifier "Monitor[0]" ModelName "SYNCMASTER 4S" Option "DPMS" VendorName "SAMSUNG" VertRefresh 56-75 UseModes "Modes[0]" EndSection Note that that did not cause the monitor to show the console. Michael -- Michael Fischer Happiness is a config option. michael@visv.net Recompile and be happy. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Date & Time: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:41:16 -0400
[Michael] == Michael Fischer
On Thursday 14 June 2007, Michael Fischer wrote:
Hi folks.
My old viewsonic g790 finally started to die, so I went out and got a Samsung 204B.
Perhaps it is because I'm running a puny old ATI 3D Rage Pro, or because I'm on SuSE 9.3, .... but when I plug in the new monitor (yes, I dropped down to console before doing so, so that I could safely run sax2), I get no output on the monitor, merely a floating box saying that I'm not running at optimum resolution (1600xNNN something). Enter, Esc, Space buttons don't seem to affect anything. Neither does turning off/on the monitor itself.
Google didn't turn up anything helpful looking.
FWIW, I tried running sax2 from another machine over ssh. Sax2 (mis)identified the monitor as a Samsung Syncmaster 45. I did not see the correct model in the list (but that's probably because 9.3 predates the model). I changed the Horz and Vert according to some specs I found online, but that made no particular difference (small surprise).
Upgrading to 10.x is not really an option right now.
Help?
TIA. ==========
Michael, My first suggestion would be that it's a good time to update the video card as well. I'm guessing that card will not display the resolution that monitor needs. Also, a newer card, even just a 9600 or 9200 will give you a smooth setup for not much money and very good performance on your setup. Lee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Jun 14, BandiPat wrote:
Michael, My first suggestion would be that it's a good time to update the video card as well. I'm guessing that card will not display the resolution that monitor needs. Also, a newer card, even just a 9600 or 9200 will give you a smooth setup for not much money and very good performance on your setup.
Thanks. I had an old Radeon sitting in a drawer, so I threw that in. Rebooted, and saw the bios, grub, and the splash screen for picking the kernel. Hit enter just to get on with it, and then the monitor went back to its misbehavior about saying it was not running at an optimum resolution. I then put back the old monitor and went into a 2 hour fight to get the thing to boot properly. Its an oldish machine which has been showing this kind of ill health for years. I'm hesitant to ever reboot it for that reason. Can take 10 tries, with full power off from the back of the box. Its still not recognizing the mouse now... *sigh* Time to drop a bunch of money on a new machine, and pray I can figure a way to save all my files. Thanks for the suggestions guys. Michael -- Michael Fischer Happiness is a config option. michael@visv.net Recompile and be happy. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Michael Fischer wrote:
Time to drop a bunch of money on a new machine, and pray I can figure a way to save all my files.
You have two things going for you now: (a) a new machine doesn't take much money anymore, and (b) it's easy to slip an existing drive into an external USB case and plug it in to the new computer after you get it built. The ones I bought were from acomdata, and were around $30 each during a closeout sale at Computer City. The computers died, but my old correspondence, software, and tax records live on. It was great to be able to junk the old hardware, but save the disks and get the files I needed onto the new machine that easily and cheaply. And with that done, it doesn't hurt to have spare 65 GB and 150 GB external drives for the odd backup or transfer job. (I use one of mine to store a bunch of VMs now when I'm not using them.) If your old case and power supply are still serviceable, you can probably put in a new motherboard, fast dual core 64-bit AMD, and a couple GB of memory for $300 or so. Add another hundred for a huge, fast new hard drive, and you're ready to go for the price of about three bottles of decent scotch. I remember my first off-brand XT clone ("American XT") at $3,000, with a small monochrome monitor and 10 MB drive. Now we can get ten times the computer for about 1/10 the money. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Michael Fischer wrote:
On Thu, Jun 14, BandiPat wrote:
Michael, My first suggestion would be that it's a good time to update the video card as well. I'm guessing that card will not display the resolution that monitor needs. Also, a newer card, even just a 9600 or 9200 will give you a smooth setup for not much money and very good performance on your setup.
Thanks. I had an old Radeon sitting in a drawer, so I threw that in.
Rebooted, and saw the bios, grub, and the splash screen for picking the kernel. Hit enter just to get on with it, and then the monitor went back to its misbehavior about saying it was not running at an optimum resolution.
I then put back the old monitor and went into a 2 hour fight to get the thing to boot properly. Its an oldish machine which has been showing this kind of ill health for years. I'm hesitant to ever reboot it for that reason. Can take 10 tries, with full power off from the back of the box. Its still not recognizing the mouse now... *sigh*
Time to drop a bunch of money on a new machine, and pray I can figure a way to save all my files.
Why not just rsync all the files of interest over to the new box? The integrity of the filesystem is really not connected to the display issues... Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Jun 15, Sloan wrote:
Why not just rsync all the files of interest over to the new box? The integrity of the filesystem is really not connected to the display issues...
Well, in the ongoing saga..... The new machine is a spanking HP pavilion, dual core athlon 64. And 10.1 doesn't recognize the DVD/CD rom... Install no go. Install ACPI=off at least gets me som old fashioned curses-style dialog boxes, but which invariably tell me it can't find/mount the cd rom device. going into the System Information dialog to Hard Disks or CD-ROMs tells me it finds the SATA HD, and even all the cute flash-rom thingies. But not the DVD/CD. I'm now almost $1000 in the hole for nice hardware I can't use... Suggestions? Michael -- Michael Fischer Happiness is a config option. michael@visv.net Recompile and be happy. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Jun 15, Michael Fischer wrote:
On Fri, Jun 15, Sloan wrote:
Why not just rsync all the files of interest over to the new box? The integrity of the filesystem is really not connected to the display issues...
Well, in the ongoing saga.....
The new machine is a spanking HP pavilion, dual core athlon 64.
And 10.1 doesn't recognize the DVD/CD rom...
Install no go.
Install ACPI=off at least gets me som old fashioned curses-style dialog boxes, but which invariably tell me it can't find/mount the cd rom device. going into the System Information dialog to Hard Disks or CD-ROMs tells me it finds the SATA HD, and even all the cute flash-rom thingies. But not the DVD/CD.
FWIW, the only branding I can see on the DVD/CD drive is "lightscribe". Any wisdom on that? I'd google, but this machine from which I am typing doesn't know it has a mouse, and that's just murder to tab through vendor sites to learn more ... (me hates the thought of being mouse-dependent to be reasonably productive online...) TIA Michael -- Michael Fischer Happiness is a config option. michael@visv.net Recompile and be happy. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Jun 15, Michael Fischer wrote:
On Fri, Jun 15, Michael Fischer wrote:
On Fri, Jun 15, Sloan wrote:
Why not just rsync all the files of interest over to the new box? The integrity of the filesystem is really not connected to the display issues...
Well, in the ongoing saga.....
The new machine is a spanking HP pavilion, dual core athlon 64.
And 10.1 doesn't recognize the DVD/CD rom...
Install no go.
Install ACPI=off at least gets me som old fashioned curses-style dialog boxes, but which invariably tell me it can't find/mount the cd rom device. going into the System Information dialog to Hard Disks or CD-ROMs tells me it finds the SATA HD, and even all the cute flash-rom thingies. But not the DVD/CD.
FWIW, the only branding I can see on the DVD/CD drive is "lightscribe".
Any wisdom on that?
I'd google, but this machine from which I am typing doesn't know it has a mouse, and that's just murder to tab through vendor sites to learn more ... (me hates the thought of being mouse-dependent to be reasonably productive online...)
Further, I scoped around this mailbox a bit, and found something which I thought might help: I swapped the connections of the cable to the DVD drive from the "master" to the other one. No luck. Just in case that helps anyone help.
TIA
Michael -- Michael Fischer Happiness is a config option. michael@visv.net Recompile and be happy. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Michael Fischer wrote:
On Fri, Jun 15, Sloan wrote:
Why not just rsync all the files of interest over to the new box? The integrity of the filesystem is really not connected to the display issues...
Well, in the ongoing saga.....
The new machine is a spanking HP pavilion, dual core athlon 64.
And 10.1 doesn't recognize the DVD/CD rom...
Install no go.
Install ACPI=off at least gets me som old fashioned curses-style dialog boxes, but which invariably tell me it can't find/mount the cd rom device. going into the System Information dialog to Hard Disks or CD-ROMs tells me it finds the SATA HD, and even all the cute flash-rom thingies. But not the DVD/CD.
I'm now almost $1000 in the hole for nice hardware I can't use...
Suggestions?
I've always had splendid success installing suse from external USB drives... If your hardware is new enough to handle booting from USB that seems like a good bet - especially since I have no idea why your internal DVD is not liking linux... Joe Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 15 June 2007, Michael Fischer wrote:
On Fri, Jun 15, Sloan wrote:
Why not just rsync all the files of interest over to the new box? The integrity of the filesystem is really not connected to the display issues...
Well, in the ongoing saga.....
The new machine is a spanking HP pavilion, dual core athlon 64.
And 10.1 doesn't recognize the DVD/CD rom...
Install no go.
Install ACPI=off at least gets me som old fashioned curses-style dialog boxes, but which invariably tell me it can't find/mount the cd rom device. going into the System Information dialog to Hard Disks or CD-ROMs tells me it finds the SATA HD, and even all the cute flash-rom thingies. But not the DVD/CD.
I'm now almost $1000 in the hole for nice hardware I can't use...
Suggestions?
Michael -- Michael Fischer Happiness is a config option. michael@visv.net Recompile and be happy.
========== Normally the drive will be HP branded. Now I'm not sure if they make their own or not, but you can purchase HP Lightscribe drives in the stores. About the only thing that comes to mine right away is the BIOS setting is off. It doesn't sound like it's set to see the DVD first. But I'll assume you have already checked that? Is the DVD SATA as well as the hard drive? If not, but an ATA, then be sure it's connected to the right plug on the cable, set to master on the second channel. That's all I can suggest at the moment. What strange new things are they doing with drives at HP? ;-) Lee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Jun 15, BandiPat wrote:
On Friday 15 June 2007, Michael Fischer wrote:
On Fri, Jun 15, Sloan wrote:
And 10.1 doesn't recognize the DVD/CD rom...
Install no go.
Install ACPI=off at least gets me som old fashioned curses-style dialog boxes, but which invariably tell me it can't find/mount the cd rom device. going into the System Information dialog to Hard Disks or CD-ROMs tells me it finds the SATA HD, and even all the cute flash-rom thingies. But not the DVD/CD.
========== Normally the drive will be HP branded. Now I'm not sure if they make their own or not, but you can purchase HP Lightscribe drives in the stores. About the only thing that comes to mine right away is the BIOS setting is off. It doesn't sound like it's set to see the DVD first. But I'll assume you have already checked that?
Is the DVD SATA as well as the hard drive? If not, but an ATA, then be sure it's connected to the right plug on the cable, set to master on the second channel. That's all I can suggest at the moment.
If you are refering to boot sequence, yes - I changed that to (1) CD, (2) HD, ... Its ATAPI in the bios. That's about all I can discover. Michael -- Michael Fischer Happiness is a config option. michael@visv.net Recompile and be happy. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Jerry Houston
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Masaru Nomiya
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Michael Fischer
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Sloan