Re: [opensuse] A BIG "show stopper" for openSUSE at the corporate level anyway!!
ka1ifq wrote:
ka1ifq wrote:
On Saturday 05 July 2008 05:24:22 pm Fred A. Miller wrote:
I rec'd a call from a sys. admin. out int he mid-west. He was looking to replace RH on a LARGE number of desktops AND servers, until he tried to install Antivir which has a dependency of dazuko. Now, if you want to be the "top dog" in the corporate world, you DON'T make it impossible or nearly so to run Antivir on openSUSE 11.0 by not allowing dazuko to run, nor be able to compile it. It appears to me and to MANY others that only one security module is allowed to run on openSUSE 11.0 and that is it's own AppArmor. Now, is all this correct or not?! IF not, then why did openSUSE 11.0 ship with a defective dazuko?! Antivir may not be critical for me, but it sure is for businesses of mixed environment. Someone had to know that this was defective before release. Fred -- Does the AntiVir run on the Desktops or the Servers?? Do these tools run under SLES and SLED? I would think these would be the OS's you would run in that type of environment (only my opinion as I only run a home desktop). There shouldn't be a problem with any of the above.....period.
Fred
-- You may very well be correct, but the question was: do these operate under
On Saturday 05 July 2008 06:48:59 pm Fred A. Miller wrote: the 'Enterprize' version of Suse??
I don't know and don't care right now, to be honest. I know that it SHOULD work as is out of the box with 11.0. It doesn't, and now a large firm will no longer consider SUSE....NOT any flavor. Security IS a big deal. Trojans for Linux ARE an increasing problem. And, any smart sys. admin. knows it and wants to protect against it. The fact that Antivir won't run out of the box IS and WAS a killer for them. I know of another site that it WILL be the same thing.
A deployment of size would probably be better using the SLES and SLED versions, you will not have the bleeding edge stuff but it would be stable.
And, not Ethernet support for a lot of their desktops because SLED uses and old kernel.
Then on the side a small level server could be setup and tested, tweeked till it's what you want / need and they deploy and test in a real environment.
From my reading here I see so many people upset with the new OpenSuse because they seemed to jump in without any 'parallel' testing before fully commiting. I plan to setup 11.0 on a seperate drive or machine and do some testing / playing before I put it on my daily desktop.
Mike, if it isn't right, it shouldn't be released. Major software MUST work.....period. Fred -- This message originated from a Linux computer using Open Source software: openSuSE Linux 11.0 No Gates, no Windows....just Linux - STABLE & SECURE! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 20:06:24 -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote:
Mike, if it isn't right, it shouldn't be released. Major software MUST work.....period.
How about lobbying that antivir drops its use of dazuko and uses other methods? Ask over on opensuse-security and they'll tell you why dazuko is a bad idea. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2008-07-05 at 20:06 -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote:
You may very well be correct, but the question was: do these operate under the 'Enterprize' version of Suse??
I don't know and don't care right now, to be honest. I know that it SHOULD work as is out of the box with 11.0. It doesn't, and now a large firm will no longer consider SUSE....NOT any flavor. Security IS a big deal. Trojans for Linux ARE an increasing problem. And, any smart sys. admin. knows it and wants to protect against it. The fact that Antivir won't run out of the box IS and WAS a killer for them. I know of another site that it WILL be the same thing.
Rubbish! If that business is important and cares for security it should not be considering letting their business security in the hands of a new opensuse release, but on the sles or at worst, on a mature version of OS. You are just trolling. And I would not invest money on such a badly managed business (if what you say is true), by the way... - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIcBLCtTMYHG2NR9URAmQyAJ9v1S+3jCq7Nx660BQbcuC1659vaACcC2L4 PtJ+fMQWzD5ib9NVxyhZwcU= =qJpP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Saturday 2008-07-05 at 20:06 -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote:
You may very well be correct, but the question was: do these operate under the 'Enterprize' version of Suse??
I don't know and don't care right now, to be honest. I know that it SHOULD work as is out of the box with 11.0. It doesn't, and now a large firm will no longer consider SUSE....NOT any flavor. Security IS a big deal. Trojans for Linux ARE an increasing problem. And, any smart sys. admin. knows it and wants to protect against it. The fact that Antivir won't run out of the box IS and WAS a killer for them. I know of another site that it WILL be the same thing.
Rubbish!
If that business is important and cares for security it should not be considering letting their business security in the hands of a new opensuse release, but on the sles or at worst, on a mature version of OS.
You are just trolling.
And I would not invest money on such a badly managed business (if what you say is true), by the way...
Carlos, you don't have a clue.....it is. Fred -- This message originated from a Linux computer using Open Source software: openSuSE Linux 11.0 No Gates, no Windows....just Linux - STABLE & SECURE! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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