-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 El Lun 19 Feb 2001 12:44, Samy Elashmawy escribi:

Dont forget the cool stickers.

Hmm there i cannot agree... suse's stickers ( at least in the spanish version) are kinda kiddie-like... dunno, i bought redhat 6.1 and got some really cool stickers ( including two little ones one very nice for the computer, cool in spain where most boxes are unbranded ) - of course now i am using suse 70 so i guess theres no need for more comments about technical matters :) Of course I know this is personal opinions, but I think that precisely one of SuSE's worst things ( happily not the most important ) is the image... Other brands have a much nicer, serious, professional, modern, call-it-as-you-like way to present their products. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT QUALITY... I am talking about aesthethics. Those stickers look like drawn by a 3 year old. Just to finish, the redhat sticker was a reaaly nice one I put in my car. Unhappily, suse's will never make it there :)

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Sorry if Im rude ( nope ) but this is one question I had thought a lot about lately ( man must I be bored :) - -- - From the forgotten corner in Europe, Land of Breogan Powered by GNU/Linux SuSE 7.0 - Linux user #97.266 ...may the force be with you -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1e-SuSE (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6kZN+43VmOmspzC4RAuv7AJ4ksrvGEtJOtUfaGnTcCHv9mARURACeOMpf eTdfYrHFuf8hoi0lddJy1P8= =Wyta -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Hve not seen the redhat ones , they do have a cool logo (the red hat) though. I Like them as they cover that nasty M$ logo on the pc that reminds me of the M$ tax. My home built do not need them. At 10:43 PM 2/19/2001 +0100, O'Bieito wrote:

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El Lun 19 Feb 2001 12:44, Samy Elashmawy escribi:

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Dont forget the cool stickers.

Hmm there i cannot agree... suse's stickers ( at least in the spanish version) are kinda kiddie-like... dunno, i bought redhat 6.1 and got some really cool stickers ( including two little ones one very nice for the computer, cool in spain where most boxes are unbranded ) - of course now i am using suse 70 so i guess theres no need for more comments about technical matters :)

Of course I know this is personal opinions, but I think that precisely one of SuSE's worst things ( happily not the most important ) is the image... Other brands have a much nicer, serious, professional, modern, call-it-as-you-like way to present their products. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT QUALITY... I am talking about aesthethics. Those stickers look like drawn by a 3 year old.

Just to finish, the redhat sticker was a reaaly nice one I put in my car. Unhappily, suse's will never make it there :)

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Sorry if Im rude ( nope ) but this is one question I had thought a lot about lately ( man must I be bored :) - -- - From the forgotten corner in Europe, Land of Breogan Powered by GNU/Linux SuSE 7.0 - Linux user #97.266

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If you're in for stickers, then buy yourself a Loki game for Linux :-) A clear thick plastic sticker, exactly the same size as the front labels of many pc boxes. The picture on the label ? A penguin :-) What else ? Of course both my computer AND my monitor are 'Linux Brand' ;-) -tosi On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 06:37:35PM -0600, Jonathan Wilson wrote:

At 11:44 AM 2/19/2001 +0000, you wrote:

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Dont forget the cool stickers.

I /love/ the stickers...especially the Erwin o2 one that came with 7.0 :-) I have it square in the middle of my desktop at home :-)

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DAMN!!!!!! Can you all please STOP FULL-QUOTING? Sorry, I'm sick of this and the flu which I got. O

Greetings! I'm having trouble on locating information for setting up a serial connection between two computers to log into a console. I normally telnet (ssh) into my SuSE 6.3 file server from my Windows 98 machine. Sometimes the network and/or access to that machine drops out for various reasons I'm still trying to track down. However, the local console is still active. Since I'm such a lazy bastard, I would like to run a serial cable from my Windows machine to log in rather than opening up the computer closet to access the local console. Any pointers on how to do this and/or web links would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Christopher

I'll try it out when I get home. I thought it would be a bit more complicated than that. :) Thanks! Christopher Reimer On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Matthew wrote:

Check /etc/inittab aroujnd about line 67 is this:

#S0:123:respawn:/sbin/agetty -L 9600 ttyS0

Try uncommenting that on both computers, then put the cable between each machines serial port 1. You can increase the speed if the cable can handle that.

Hope that helps,

Matt

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Greetings!

I'm having trouble on locating information for setting up a serial connection between two computers to log into a console. I normally telnet (ssh) into my SuSE 6.3 file server from my Windows 98 machine. Sometimes the network and/or access to that machine drops out for various reasons I'm still trying to track down. However, the local console is still active. Since I'm such a lazy bastard, I would like to run a serial cable from my Windows machine to log in rather than opening up the computer closet to access the local console. Any pointers on how to do this and/or web links would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Christopher

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emanon schrieb:

you may need a null modem to cross the send/receive lines

true.

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I'll try it out when I get home. I thought it would be a bit more complicated than that. :)

No, it is not. Read below and think with a laughter. It works!

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#S0:123:respawn:/sbin/agetty -L 9600 ttyS0

Try uncommenting that on both computers, then put the cable between each machines serial port 1. You can increase the speed if the cable can handle that.

I run a COMMODORE 64 (!!!!) as console/telnet client with this. but 2400 is all that little boy is able to work with (without extra hardware)

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Greetings!

I'm having trouble on locating information for setting up a serial connection between two computers to log into a console. I normally telnet

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"Victor R. Cardona" schrieb:

On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 11:12:10AM +0100, Oliver Ob wrote:

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I run a COMMODORE 64 (!!!!) as console/telnet client with this. but 2400 is all that

little boy is able to work with (without extra hardware)

Are you serious???? (looking longingly at the C64 in the corner...)

Victor Cardona

YES I AM! Have you still got loads of NTSC/PAL fixed 64 games there, then get to me via Email. Interested in connecting the c64 to linux mgetty console, then via the list... -- *º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨¨*¤Oliver@home*º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨*¤ still in love with my SX 64!!!!!!

Joost Kremers schrieb:

On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, you wrote:

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"Victor R. Cardona" schrieb:

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On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 11:12:10AM +0100, Oliver Ob wrote:

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I run a COMMODORE 64 (!!!!) as console/telnet client with this. but 2400 is all that

little boy is able to work with (without extra hardware)

Are you serious???? (looking longingly at the C64 in the corner...)

Victor Cardona

YES I AM! Have you still got loads of NTSC/PAL fixed 64 games there, then get to me via Email. Interested in connecting the c64 to linux mgetty console, then via the list...

well, not a C64, but i do have an old MSX lying around, which i'd love to connect to my linux box. but i never thought it would actually be possible... i'd like to hear how you did it, 'cos i guess at least part of the process will be the same...

Hi Joost, I have some Terminal running on the combogombo (Nova Termn, CCGMS oder handyterm). You do only need that term for transfers. in case you need no file xfers, a simple handshake basic program would fit (for 1200 baud). better tho is machine language, which will serve you stable 2400 bauds full duplex send and receive. then, a 0-modem-cable with crossed pairs for sx/rx data does the job. have mgetty run to look for the port (/dev/ttyS03 is mine...) -- *º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨¨*¤Oliver@home*º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨*¤

On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 02:44:22PM +0000, The Purple Tiger wrote:

How are you doing it? <grins> I have a C64 here =o) What software are you using? Where can I get it from?

Unfortunately, I will probably not have time until next month. - v -- Victor R. Cardona vcardona@home.com "Behold the keyboard of Kahless, the greatest Klingon code warrior that ever lived!"

"Christopher D. Reimer" schrieb:

At 10:39 AM 2/25/2001, Victor R. Cardona wrote:

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On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 11:12:10AM +0100, Oliver Ob wrote:

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I run a COMMODORE 64 (!!!!) as console/telnet client with this. but 2400 is all that

little boy is able to work with (without extra hardware)

Are you serious???? (looking longingly at the C64 in the corner...)

Victor Cardona

If you can jury-rigged a RS-232 serial cable and have terminal emulation software, any device can be used to access the linux console on the serial port. The problem with the Commodore 64 is the 40x24 display. Although there are some software tricks from yesteryear that would make a C64 display 80x48 in black and white. ;)

Christopher Reimer

it is 40x25 and novaterm supports stable 80x25 on ansi emulation i think this would be enough. -- *º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨¨*¤Oliver@home*º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨*¤

Well, since 7.0, yast2 ist pure dumbf**k, since who needs this graphical nonsense? Sound support sucks under Suse (Notebook-Alsa problems all the time)

Not true?

I actually like the potential of Yast2. Its pretty unfair to give such a label to a new piece of software that tries to make life a little easier :-). I do not have the time to go digging through a thousand different text files. Sure nice to *know* that you can, but why should I be forced to? You may not have had much luck with sound support, but have you even tried RH? Nothing is perfect, I have a friend who was trying to get sound working on Win98SE and he used all the different drivers for this Crystal sound device to no avail. What is your sound device on your notebook? Did you try newer versions of ALSA? Oh yeah, if you have flu, make sure you get plenty of liquids and rest :-). Been a lot going around this year! Matt

At 07:16 PM 2/19/2001 -0600, you wrote:

No circular dependencies in the RPMs.

I used to use Red Hat. Now I won't even touch it. SuSE is much better engineered, and has higher quality. Also SuSE does not do stupid things with its distribution like including beta versions of system libraries and compilers.

Victor Cardona

I agree completely, I use RH at work and almost hate it, it's so messed up. SuSE just simply works. At home I only use SuSE

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