Just out of curiosity, has anyone out there had any success with running IE5 on Wine? As distasteful as this may seem (and it is), I need it for an internal page that makes use of some undocumented CSS features that don't work with netscape... <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2651.75"> <TITLE>More fun with WINE</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT SIZE=2>Just out of curiosity, has anyone out there had any success with running IE5 on Wine? As distasteful as this may seem (and it is), I need it for an internal page that makes use of some undocumented CSS features that don't work with netscape...</FONT></P> </BODY>
On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 08:56:52AM -0700, Clinton Rogers wrote:
Just out of curiosity, has anyone out there had any success with running IE5 on Wine? As distasteful as this may seem (and it is), I need it for an internal page that makes use of some undocumented CSS features that don't work with netscape...
It sort of works. Maximum Linux Magazine's latest issue included binaries of both IE5.01 and WINE (I don't recall the snapshot date), and they did actually work. The catch is that you never know how long it's going to work, and you never know whether the buttons on the navigation bar are going to be readable or usable. Proceed at your own risk. -- -=|JP|=- "Why, oh, why didn't I take the blue pill?" Jon Pennington | Atipa Linux Solutions -o) jpennington@atipa.com | http://www.atipa.com /\\ Kansas City, MO, USA | 816-595-3000 x1550 _\_V 6D04 39E0 CAE9 9ADA 2CA3 2EBE 898A 6C37 CA1E A29C -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
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Just out of curiosity, has anyone out there had any success with running IE5 on Wine? As distasteful as this may seem (and it is), I need it for an internal page that makes use of some undocumented CSS features that don't work with netscape...
Sorry, can't help.. trying to start wine here and it's been busy chewing up swap for an hour building font metrics. Maybe I should RTFM! BTW: w3 *define* what's CSS and fully document it on their web site (http://www.w3.org). Any other guff is gatesism and can get you into deep manure with the UN. See the Accessability guidelines at w3.org and legal liabilities under equal-opportunity legislation which exist in various forms around the world. -- Bernd Felsche - Innovative Reckoning Perth, Western Australia -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Clinton Rogers wrote:
Just out of curiosity, has anyone out there had any success with running IE5 on Wine? As distasteful as this may seem (and it is), I need it for an internal page that makes use of some undocumented CSS features that don't work with netscape...
Well just curiosity I did run IE5.0 on wine. There were lots of error messages flying out due to my keyboard layout (due to the fact it is Turkish keyboard with qwerty layout) beig unable to be recognized by wine lots of temp file write permission errors (OK I mounted the windows partion RO) CP 1254 being not found (OK this Windows Turkish). I had a dialup connection established from Suse Linux and IE could surf the net yet looks extremely ugly (maybe due to my 1600x1200 desktop). So quite not sure if this is what you are looking into the answer is It does run. hope it helps -- Togan Muftuoglu toganm@turk.net -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Hello, I might actually get kicked out of this mail-group for this irrelevant question..........but just a thought..... ...........How long should it take a starter to become a guru and start answering question on a mailing list like this ?? Umer -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Depending on you having any answers: no time at all, or eternity :-) Depends on the problems you solve for yourself. If you're confident that you solved a problem someone else has, you can give him or her your solution. At their option they can try it, or discard it altogether. On 16-Jun-00 Umer Abdul Ahad wrote: # Hello, # # I might actually get kicked out of this mail-group for this irrelevant # question..........but just a thought..... # # ...........How long should it take a starter to become a guru and start # answering question on a mailing list like this ?? # # Umer Maarten Sneep
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You do not need to be a guru to answer a question. Sometimes a beginner may be able to answer a question in better terms than an expert, because the beginner can relate better. The bottom line is that if a question is asked that you can answer succintly and correctly, then answer it. Umer Abdul Ahad wrote:
...........How long should it take a starter to become a guru and start answering question on a mailing list like this ??
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Hello, I'm not guru, yet I have a HylaFax HOW-TO posted on the www.hylafax.org site and I have a xfsft HOW-TO posted. Others helped me, and I simply documented my work, so others could see what I did. George Fri, 16 Jun 2000, ÷Ù ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌÉ:
You do not need to be a guru to answer a question. Sometimes a beginner may be able to answer a question in better terms than an expert, because the beginner can relate better. The bottom line is that if a question is asked that you can answer succintly and correctly, then answer it. Umer Abdul Ahad wrote:
...........How long should it take a starter to become a guru and start answering question on a mailing list like this ?? -- Jerry Feldman
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On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 05:47:53PM +1000, Umer Abdul Ahad wrote:
...........How long should it take a starter to become a guru and start answering question on a mailing list like this ??
You don't need to be a guru. Just learn how to do some stuff, that you would like to do. Odds are that someone else will want to do the same, and then you might be able to help them. Victor -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 05:47:53PM +1000, Umer Abdul Ahad wrote:
...........How long should it take a starter to become a guru and start answering question on a mailing list like this ??
When you get over the fact that you don't know everything, and start to help people in spite of your own trepidation, you become an asset. Gurus are rare and precious. I work with true gurus (PERL gods, NFS wizards, and the like), but I listen carefully when they talk and take in all that I can. When somebody asks a question, I think about all of the things I've learned in the last five years, and consider the problem they are having. If I have a solution that has worked for me or sounds like it *might* work for them, I give my account and advice. Once in a while, I get one right :). -- -=|JP|=- "Why, oh, why didn't I take the blue pill?" Jon Pennington | Atipa Linux Solutions -o) jpennington@atipa.com | http://www.atipa.com /\\ Kansas City, MO, USA | 816-595-3000 x1550 _\_V 6D04 39E0 CAE9 9ADA 2CA3 2EBE 898A 6C37 CA1E A29C -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
when mr Jon speak you guys shall listen. RR On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Jon Pennington wrote: > On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 05:47:53PM +1000, Umer Abdul Ahad wrote: > > > ...........How long should it take a starter to become a guru and start > > answering question on a mailing list like this ?? > > When you get over the fact that you don't know everything, and start to > help people in spite of your own trepidation, you become an asset. > Gurus are rare and precious. I work with true gurus (PERL gods, NFS > wizards, and the like), but I listen carefully when they talk and take > in all that I can. When somebody asks a question, I think about all of > the things I've learned in the last five years, and consider the problem > they are having. If I have a solution that has worked for me or sounds > like it *might* work for them, I give my account and advice. Once in a > while, I get one right :). > > -- > -=|JP|=- "Why, oh, why didn't I take the blue pill?" > Jon Pennington | Atipa Linux Solutions -o) > jpennington@atipa.com | http://www.atipa.com /\\ > Kansas City, MO, USA | 816-595-3000 x1550 _\_V > > 6D04 39E0 CAE9 9ADA 2CA3 2EBE 898A 6C37 CA1E A29C > > -- > To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com
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Umer Abdul Ahad wrote:
...........How long should it take a starter to become a guru and start answering question on a mailing list like this ??
I personally don't think time is the critical factor here. You could be sitting in front of your PC and just stare at it. The question could be what are you capable of doing with the system. Practice makes it perfect. Secondly what does guru mean: A teacher or leader regarded as having special knowledge, powers etc Under this definition I would place Linus Torvalds since he had a vision when initianting Linux (I go for the leader approach). Hope the answer helps -- Togan Muftuoglu toganm@turk.net -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 05:47:53PM +1000, Umer Abdul Ahad wrote:
Hello,
I might actually get kicked out of this mail-group for this irrelevant question..........but just a thought.....
...........How long should it take a starter to become a guru and start answering question on a mailing list like this ??
Experience is a teacher. When you have experienced something, you are qualified, to some degree or other, to share it with others because it is your experience. Guru?... In the eye of the beholder, I'm afraid. -- Brad Shelton On Line Exchange http://online-isp.com -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On 16 Jun 2000, at 17:47, Umer Abdul Ahad wrote:
...........How long should it take a starter to become a guru and start answering question on a mailing list like this ??
That depends-- here's a for instance.... The first linux install I did was with Red Hat 4.2 and the X configuration tool didn't work with my graphics card. So I got out _Running Linux_ and learned how to configure X by hand. Now, when someone else had the same problem with that card, I could tell them exactly what they needed to do to get it to work. Today I learned what I had done wrong trying to get WordPerfect 8 running on 6.4, so if someone else has the problem I can share the answer. The point is that with linux everyone can learn something about their system and share what they know, and that's the true beauty of the whole thing. BTW, you've picked the best English-speaking linux list in the world, so you're off to a good start.... Enjoy, Dennis "Custard pies are a sort of esperanto: a universal language." --Noel Godin -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
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