Greetings, I can't use locate in SUSE 9.1 Pro is there a reason why it isn't installed? The the naming of ifcfg-eth-<macaddres> I have read the reasoning behind the decision to name the devices this way and agree it makes sense, but my question is if I created my own ifcfg-eth0 would it also work. I don't want to change the default I am just curious, and don't want to break anything! I often like to run a programs such as the konqueror or nautilus when I just want to copy selected files, it works out a bit quicker than the command line. But when I open a shell and su - and run konqueror as root from from shell it doesn't work, I get a "can't open Display :0 error", Is there a good reason for this or is there a fix. I also noticed that xhost + as root gives me a similar error. Could be related. Then I noticed that suse 9.1 is very much slower than any other distro I have ever installed. If I start to write a cd in k3b my sound hacks and open office behaves as if there are no resources available. I was checking my swap space and then I relised there is no activity on swap!? Using the Kde System Guard, it reports 0kb used and 0kb free, I tried to run swapon but it swears at me so I assume it is already running but then free space should be 1 gig. But then on the other hand the system does have 760 MB ram. I do hope it is broken as It would make my PC faster if it were working. And the I have something to fix :=}. This is a pain, because I like to setup my config files myself, but am to scared to tamper the files created by YAST, they have lines in them I have not learnt about yet. So a job that usually took me, say 30 secs is now taking two minutes because YAST takes so long to open, and every time I click an option a new window opens and that takes a while. Other things which are slow to respond is the volume control you decrease the volume slider and then the sound decreases shortly afterwards. Is suse using alsa? I see it in services but it doesn't work when I select it in xmms. And if alsa were running the volume sliders would respond instantly. I remeber that the volume sliders misbehaved this way with oss. Lastly Surley there must be a list of repositories some where. I have tried installing apt and now my system is broken, and I blame the fact that I had to try and solve the 500 dependencies manually. Now YOU is simply refusing to work through our firwall (it connects and starts updating and then starts swearing about this package and that package thats not found or something, unreliable really, and I have only got the default repos in there, A list of other nice repos would be nice. Unfortunately I haven't the time in a day to sit here and resolve dependencies. There must be other repos available witch I can add to kpackage or one of the package managers that I can download a new version of Xine and libdvdcss2 for example and all the dependencies are handled by the app not me. Please don't swear at me and tell me to use google, I have been there done that got the t-shirt the cap and the jocks, There I only get noise! no repos! Shoo that was a lot said on a monday morning. Thanks for reading Chadley
In a previous message, Chadley Wilson
I can't use locate in SUSE 9.1 Pro is there a reason why it isn't installed?
As with SUSE for ages, it's in a separate package (findutils-locate or something like that). IIRC, it's not installed by default because running update-db slows the system down (of course), which caused problems for some users.
I often like to run a programs such as the konqueror or nautilus when I just want to copy selected files, it works out a bit quicker than the command line. But when I open a shell and su - and run konqueror as root from from shell it doesn't work, I get a "can't open Display :0 error",
Have you tried sux instead? This is designed for running X programs (the PATH is set appropriately). If it's not that, try deleting /root/.Xauthority - that has caused me problems in the past that sound similar to yours.
Then I noticed that suse 9.1 is very much slower than any other distro I have ever installed.
Other people have reported the same - search the archives for possible solutions. FWIW, I have no such problems here (which isn't much help, I know, but does at least show that it's not an intrinsic problem but specific to certain setups).
Lastly Surley there must be a list of repositories some where. I have tried installing apt and now my system is broken, and I blame the fact that I had to try and solve the 500 dependencies manually.
There are big warnings when installing apt to ensure that you don't mess up your system when you first do an update. Indeed, this is the reason I've never used it. The problem is that some repositories use slightly different systems to the standard, so will drag in a whole lot of packages that they need, but that then breaks other things. Once you try to do it manually, that introduces a whole new hell. Probably the best thing to do is to use YaST to revert to the original packages from the install discs and do a YOU update, then install the extra packages you want individually using rpm (or KPackage or similar) rather than apt.
There must be other repos available witch I can add to kpackage or one of the package managers that I can download a new version of Xine and libdvdcss2 for example and all the dependencies are handled by the app not me.
There is no shortcut to using apt - you need to set it up properly or it can cause problems. However, once it's set up it does apparently save lots of effort. If there are only a few packages that you want it will probably be easier just to download them from a site like Packman (http://packman.links2linux.org/), which lists all the dependencies right there and provides links for almost all of them. Then just use KPackage to install the RPMs - drag the whole batch in at once and it will sort them into the right order for you. HTH John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Knossos: escape the ever-changing labyrinth before the Minotaur catches you!
On Monday 02 August 2004 05:43, Chadley Wilson wrote:
I can't use locate in SUSE 9.1 Pro is there a reason why it isn't installed?
~ believe you need to install:- findutils-locate [ it is not installed, by default] -- best wishes ____________ sent on Linux ____________
pinto wrote:
On Monday 02 August 2004 05:43, Chadley Wilson wrote:
I can't use locate in SUSE 9.1 Pro is there a reason why it isn't installed?
~ believe you need to install:-
findutils-locate
[ it is not installed, by default]
It's yet another mystery to me why it's not installed by default as it's one of the more useful utils in Linux that distinguishes it from the likes of Solaris as "find /whatever blah-blah -print", not even having "-print0" to tell you where it is, takes ages and is painful enough to bring forth expletive utterances such as f****ggg Sloraris cr**, but is a good earner if you are paid for time spent. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer =====LINUX ONLY USED HERE=====
On Monday 02 August 2004 05:43, Chadley Wilson wrote:
checking my swap space
~ maybe, run <top> and see what top shows { or, command: swapon -s } if result is not correct, then :- mkswap /dev/<partition> then, ensure that /etc/fstab has swap partition[s] defined. lastly, command :- swapon -a -- best wishes ____________ sent on Linux ____________
Chadley Wilson wrote:
The the naming of ifcfg-eth-<macaddres> I have read the reasoning behind the decision to name the devices this way and agree it makes sense, but my question is if I created my own ifcfg-eth0 would it also work. I don't want to change the default I am just curious, and don't want to break anything!
Try it and see. I think the answer's yes.
I often like to run a programs such as the konqueror or nautilus when I just want to copy selected files, it works out a bit quicker than the command line. But when I open a shell and su - and run konqueror as root from from shell it doesn't work, I get a "can't open Display :0 error", Is there a good reason for this or is there a fix. I also noticed that xhost + as root gives me a similar error. Could be related.
It's a security feature. Programs that use X Window system use large libraries and are more likely to be vulnerable. So they cannot, by default use X. Use sux rather than su.
Then I noticed that suse 9.1 is very much slower than any other distro I have ever installed. If I start to write a cd in k3b my sound hacks and open office behaves as if there are no resources available.
Probably because SuSE uses KDE by default. Try something else if you want more speed. There's a trdae-off here, but at least you have the choice.
I was checking my swap space and then I relised there is no activity on swap!? Using the Kde System Guard, it reports 0kb used and 0kb free, I tried to run swapon but it swears at me so I assume it is already running but then free space should be 1 gig. But then on the other hand the system does have 760 MB ram. I do hope it is broken as It would make my PC faster if it were working. And the I have something to fix :=}.
Probably nothing broken
This is a pain, because I like to setup my config files myself, but am to scared to tamper the files created by YAST, they have lines in them I have not learnt about yet. So a job that usually took me, say 30 secs is now taking two minutes because YAST takes so long to open, and every time I click an option a new window opens and that takes a while.
Keep a copy of the YaST file, e.g. /etc/X11Rc/XF86config.yast-save. Then you can restore it if your version didn't work
Is suse using alsa? I see it in services but it doesn't work when I select it in xmms. And if alsa were running the volume sliders would respond instantly. I remeber that the volume sliders misbehaved this way with oss.
By default, SuSE uses alsa. -- JDL
On Monday 02 August 2004 19:10, John Lamb wrote us and said:
Chadley Wilson wrote:
The the naming of ifcfg-eth-<macaddres> I have read the reasoning behind the decision to name the devices this John Thank you for your intelligent answers, I do appreciate you input.
El Lunes, 2 de Agosto de 2004 07:43, Chadley Wilson escribió:
Greetings,
Then I noticed that suse 9.1 is very much slower than any other distro I have ever installed. If I start to write a cd in k3b my sound hacks and open office behaves as if there are no resources available. I was checking my swap space and then I relised there is no activity on swap!? Using the Kde System Guard, it reports 0kb used and 0kb free, I tried to run swapon but it swears at me so I assume it is already running but then free space should be 1 gig. But then on the other hand the system does have 760 MB ram. I do hope it is broken as It would make my PC faster if it were working. And the I have something to fix :=}. Thanks for reading
Chadley
Hello Chadley: I alsohave the problem "suse 9.1 is very much slower than any other distro I have ever installed". My sound also hacks, and even sometimes my mouse doesn't mouve smooth, and programs reponses get slow. That happened also wrtting a cd (when starting and finishing mostly), or executting a kde app when using gnome, or when launching some yast sub-app (sax2 for example, which is in Hardware > Graphic card & Monitor), launching YOU, etc... One strange thing is for example that when I execute updatedb (and sound hacks etc), I can see top reporting low cpu usage (around 15%) but in Kde System Guard and Gnome System Monitor it goes to 100%! And that missmatch also happens while exectuing the other mentioned tasks. I have 256 Mb of Ram and a AMD Athlon XP 2000+ CPU; not as much ram as you, but certenly enough for those things being happening (and as you said, those things did never happen to me in Fedora, Mandrake or Gentoo). Note that the most strage thing to me was is when the mouse mouvement is not smooth because that did never happen to me in this pc with any other distro. It also is not smooth when logging out kde. Are things I related happenning to you? Have you got also a Athlon XP? Which are the differences between your problem and mine ? Thanks for your time, Edulix.
On Monday 02 August 2004 01:41 pm, Edulix wrote:
El Lunes, 2 de Agosto de 2004 07:43, Chadley Wilson escribió:
Greetings,
Then I noticed that suse 9.1 is very much slower than any other distro I have ever installed. .....<snip some>......
Chadley
Hello Chadley:
I alsohave the problem "suse 9.1 is very much slower than any other distro I have ever installed". ......<snip more>.............
Chadley & Edulix, Quick question. Does this problem "build" or increase as time goes on??? Just a crazy one time shot in the dark. It happens to me that way. The culprit? artsd. It never turns off like it is supposed to do and continues to eat cpu until the machine grinds to a halt. Drove me crazy until I started to watch top. I have to manually kill artsd to make the machine normal again. Haven't been able to find a way to cure that yet. Hope you figure it out. Bob S. Just a shot in the dark. Wish you luck.
On Monday 02 August 2004 19:41, Edulix wrote us and said:
Hello Chadley:
I alsohave the problem "suse 9.1 is very much slower than any other distro I have ever installed". My sound also hacks, and even sometimes my mouse doesn't mouve smooth, and programs reponses get slow. That happened also wrtting a cd (when starting and finishing mostly), or executting a kde app when using gnome, or when launching some yast sub-app (sax2 for example, which is in Hardware > Graphic card & Monitor), launching YOU, etc...
One strange thing is for example that when I execute updatedb (and sound hacks etc), I can see top reporting low cpu usage (around 15%) but in Kde System Guard and Gnome System Monitor it goes to 100%! And that missmatch also happens while exectuing the other mentioned tasks.
I have 256 Mb of Ram and a AMD Athlon XP 2000+ CPU; not as much ram as you, but certenly enough for those things being happening (and as you said, those things did never happen to me in Fedora, Mandrake or Gentoo). Note that the most strage thing to me was is when the mouse mouvement is not smooth because that did never happen to me in this pc with any other distro. It also is not smooth when logging out kde.
Are things I related happenning to you? Have you got also a Athlon XP? Which are the differences between your problem and mine ?
Thanks for your time, Edulix.
Thanks Edulix Yes I have just about the exact same problems, My PC is 1.9 GIG P4 with a 760 MB ram and a 80GIG 7200 rom ata133 Western Digital Hard disk, The mainboard has the intel 865 chipset. Chadley
On Tue August 3 2004 1:40 am, Chadley Wilson wrote:
On Monday 02 August 2004 19:41, Edulix wrote us and said:
Hello Chadley:
I alsohave the problem "suse 9.1 is very much slower than any other distro I have ever installed". My sound also hacks, and even sometimes my mouse doesn't mouve smooth, and programs reponses get slow. That happened also wrtting a cd (when starting and finishing mostly), or executting a kde app when using gnome, or when launching some yast sub-app (sax2 for example, which is in Hardware > Graphic card & Monitor), launching YOU, etc...
Are things I related happenning to you? Have you got also a Athlon XP? Which are the differences between your problem and mine ?
I've had the same problem. Check your system log and KDE System Guards process table to see whats causing the problem. Mine was the find files app. I've just removed a bad memory module and replaced a bad lan card and only have about 15 hours rontime with no problem. I have no idea if the hardware problems are related to the find problems. Rich
Thanks for your time, Edulix.
-- C. Richard Matson
Hello: Can anyone please try to help me with this problem? What it could be about?? Any comment please? Perhaps is there a better place to ask? I really don't know what's happening and I've been dealing with for 2 weeks without any luck still :-(. I hope someone can help me with this strange & annoying problem. Thanks for your time, Edulix. El Lunes, 2 de Agosto de 2004 19:41, Edulix escribió:
El Lunes, 2 de Agosto de 2004 07:43, Chadley Wilson escribió:
Greetings,
Then I noticed that suse 9.1 is very much slower than any other distro I have ever installed. If I start to write a cd in k3b my sound hacks and open office behaves as if there are no resources available. I was checking my swap space and then I relised there is no activity on swap!? Using the Kde System Guard, it reports 0kb used and 0kb free, I tried to run swapon but it swears at me so I assume it is already running but then free space should be 1 gig. But then on the other hand the system does have 760 MB ram. I do hope it is broken as It would make my PC faster if it were working. And the I have something to fix :=}. Thanks for reading
Chadley
Hello Chadley:
I alsohave the problem "suse 9.1 is very much slower than any other distro I have ever installed". My sound also hacks, and even sometimes my mouse doesn't mouve smooth, and programs reponses get slow. That happened also wrtting a cd (when starting and finishing mostly), or executting a kde app when using gnome, or when launching some yast sub-app (sax2 for example, which is in Hardware > Graphic card & Monitor), launching YOU, etc...
One strange thing is for example that when I execute updatedb (and sound hacks etc), I can see top reporting low cpu usage (around 15%) but in Kde System Guard and Gnome System Monitor it goes to 100%! And that missmatch also happens while exectuing the other mentioned tasks.
I have 256 Mb of Ram and a AMD Athlon XP 2000+ CPU; not as much ram as you, but certenly enough for those things being happening (and as you said, those things did never happen to me in Fedora, Mandrake or Gentoo). Note that the most strage thing to me was is when the mouse mouvement is not smooth because that did never happen to me in this pc with any other distro. It also is not smooth when logging out kde.
Are things I related happenning to you? Have you got also a Athlon XP? Which are the differences between your problem and mine ?
Thanks for your time, Edulix.
The only problem I've come across and that was with a home built kernel was that DMA was not set on for the hard drives and CDROM, so everything was very slow. Perhaps this is not your problem, but it won't hurt to eliminate it. barrabas:/ftp/aug04/BIBSTER # hdparm /dev/hda /dev/hda: multcount = 16 (on) IO_support = 1 (32-bit) unmaskirq = 1 (on) using_dma = 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead = 256 (on) geometry = 16383/255/63, sectors = 241254720, start = 0 barrabas:/ftp/aug04/BIBSTER # hdparm /dev/hdb /dev/hdb: ####The CD-RW/DVD #### HDIO_GET_MULTCOUNT failed: Invalid argument IO_support = 1 (32-bit) unmaskirq = 1 (on) using_dma = 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead = 256 (on) HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument Regards Sid. Edulix wrote:
Hello:
Can anyone please try to help me with this problem? What it could be about?? Any comment please? Perhaps is there a better place to ask? I really don't know what's happening and I've been dealing with for 2 weeks without any luck still :-(. I hope someone can help me with this strange & annoying problem.
Thanks for your time, Edulix.
El Lunes, 2 de Agosto de 2004 19:41, Edulix escribió:
El Lunes, 2 de Agosto de 2004 07:43, Chadley Wilson escribió:
Greetings,
Then I noticed that suse 9.1 is very much slower than any other distro I have ever installed. If I start to write a cd in k3b my sound hacks and open office behaves as if there are no resources available. I was checking my swap space and then I relised there is no activity on swap!? Using the Kde System Guard, it reports 0kb used and 0kb free, I tried to run swapon but it swears at me so I assume it is already running but then free space should be 1 gig. But then on the other hand the system does have 760 MB ram. I do hope it is broken as It would make my PC faster if it were working. And the I have something to fix :=}. Thanks for reading
Chadley
Hello Chadley:
I alsohave the problem "suse 9.1 is very much slower than any other distro I have ever installed". My sound also hacks, and even sometimes my mouse doesn't mouve smooth, and programs reponses get slow. That happened also wrtting a cd (when starting and finishing mostly), or executting a kde app when using gnome, or when launching some yast sub-app (sax2 for example, which is in Hardware > Graphic card & Monitor), launching YOU, etc...
One strange thing is for example that when I execute updatedb (and sound hacks etc), I can see top reporting low cpu usage (around 15%) but in Kde System Guard and Gnome System Monitor it goes to 100%! And that missmatch also happens while exectuing the other mentioned tasks.
I have 256 Mb of Ram and a AMD Athlon XP 2000+ CPU; not as much ram as you, but certenly enough for those things being happening (and as you said, those things did never happen to me in Fedora, Mandrake or Gentoo). Note that the most strage thing to me was is when the mouse mouvement is not smooth because that did never happen to me in this pc with any other distro. It also is not smooth when logging out kde.
Are things I related happenning to you? Have you got also a Athlon XP? Which are the differences between your problem and mine ?
Thanks for your time, Edulix.
-- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer =====LINUX ONLY USED HERE=====
I had similar problems. Having disabled powersave and other unused services (smb,nfs,ppp) I got acceptable speed except for boot because of the hotplug annoyance. You can disable services by means of Yast, System, Runlevel editor, Advanced. Disable them one by one, watch how your system reacts. Anyway I think SuSE guys should far more active to this respect since the misbehaviours of 9.1 begin to be well-known. Robert
On Monday 02 August 2004 12:43 am, Chadley Wilson wrote:
The the naming of ifcfg-eth-<macaddres> I have read the reasoning behind the decision to name the devices this way and agree it makes sense, but my question is if I created my own ifcfg-eth0 would it also work. I don't want to change the default I am just curious, and don't want to break anything!
I simply renamed ifcfg-eth-<macaddres> to ifcfg-eth0. Works fine for me. Doug
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