-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2009-04-06 at 05:47 +0200, Philipp Thomas wrote:

Philipp (who's currently working to turn golded+ into an OBS package :)

Really? I want it :-)~~ - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAknZffMACgkQtTMYHG2NR9X4LACfTBEc5A3VzrwZQ75G8/uQkKfs z+sAnA7WJaNR3k2XwADidx2RMo/u26C5 =ertq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* David C. Rankin [04-05-09 23:39]:

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I found myself in the unflattering predicament or having forgotten how to transfer files over a dial-up connection. (I call it having a cranal-rectal inversion.. i.e. head up your ...)

I used to use kermit, but it has been a loong time :^)

kermit --help

or google...

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

On Monday, 2009-04-06 at 07:13 -0400, James Knott wrote:

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What is a "dial-up connection"? ;-)

You can dial up to a computer, which would fill the part of an ISP. Ie, give you tcp/ip over the rs232 line or modem. Once you have tcp/ip, you have a completely secure (as far as a telephone call is secure) network connection, separate from internet, and with all the network services available to you: web, ssh, ftp... and of course, as many terminals as you like - up to the bandwidth limit, of course.

I guess you missed the ";-)". I am quite familiar with dial up access, having used it for many years, going back to the early '80s. However, I have been on a cable modem connection for over 10 years. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

The person sitting on the sending machine has to initiate the sending. In minicom it is ctrl A Z, then S, choose protocol (zmodem), choose file.

Yes, That's where I got stuck. It was only me sitting at the lake 10.3 box (That's at Lake Nacogdoches, 20 miles away from home) dialed into my home server (In Nacogdoches) with nobody on the other end of the connection accept my server: Home (Nobody) Lake (Me) _____________ ______________ | | 10.3 server |<---------->| 10.3 client | Modem Conn.| ------------- --------------

On the receiving machine, you do nothing - provided that minicom is running and the link up - because minicom will detect the incoming file and start the procedure automatically. Maybe it asks for a file name, I don't remember.

I think this is where Phillip's post provides the solution. My problem was there was nobody at "home" to initiate the file send.

So... you do not download, you send. To download you need BBS type software on the other end, which does the part of the "human" sitting at the minicom terminal on the other side.

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-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.

It was late, but I still felt pretty dumb being stumped my the serial connection send problem. I really makes you appreciate the ppp connection at times like this. Establish the ppp connection over dialup and then everything else, (dns, ssh, etc..) just works. I'll give rzsz a shot and see how it works. Thanks Phillip, Carlos, Patrick. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 04/06/2009 08:08 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

You need the server machine to be listening via a getty type of program configured in inittab, so that you get a terminal with login and bash prompt. Then you can execute "sz" on the remote server, and catch it on the local side running minicom.

That's it :-)

I think there is/was a trick to configure things in inittab so that when you dialed in, you'd get a prompt or a ppp prompt depending on what the client did. That would be wonderfull for your situation.

I have been on the client side of such a setup, I don't know how exactly to configure the server side. You would need to configure the mgetty program. It allows a ppp dial-in, and isn't that hard to setup. HTH. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 11.1 x86_64

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Joe Morris wrote:

On 04/06/2009 08:08 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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You need the server machine to be listening via a getty type of program configured in inittab, so that you get a terminal with login and bash prompt. Then you can execute "sz" on the remote server, and catch it on the local side running minicom.

That's it :-)

I think there is/was a trick to configure things in inittab so that when you dialed in, you'd get a prompt or a ppp prompt depending on what the client did. That would be wonderfull for your situation.

I have been on the client side of such a setup, I don't know how exactly to configure the server side. You would need to configure the mgetty program. It allows a ppp dial-in, and isn't that hard to setup. HTH.

Joe, I have had ppp working for a couple of years, then the install of Avantfax altered a couple of hylafax files (probably the config for the gettyargs) and it killed ppp, so I was sort of stuck. I'm still working on backing out the avantfax issue and finding out what exactly killed ppp, but in the interim, I was trying to work on it from a remote location over a dialup serial link with no ppp. The dialin minicom -> to whatever the heck answered on the server game me my normal bash login over the serial connection, but no way to initial a remote file transfer from the server I was dialed into back to where I was. You are correct, ppp solves all the issues I was faced with ... no, just how to get it back. More work for tonight. I'll pass along the solution to the ppp problem once I decipher it. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Damon Register wrote:

David C. Rankin wrote:

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I was at the lake and my normal dial-in ppp connection to my server at home

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"send the file the .. where?" got me wrapped around the axle. Perhaps I am missing something but no one else has said anything else about this. You are at a lake and I am guessing that means you are on vacation. Aren't you supposed to be enjoying the lake and not thinking about computers? Get help fast :-)

Damon Register

Yes, that's true! Although sometimes I wonder. Usually 'being at the lake' means mowing, painting, etc..., but then there are times when it means fishing, skiing, swimming, ribs, brisket, burgers & cold beer. (Now if we could just get rid of the mowing, painting, etc....) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org